Vivian Tu

I don't know.

I'm so happy for you.

I'm so proud of you.

Like I'm just, that is the feeling though.

I want us to have for other women.

Yeah.

Because you sitting there and saying, I'm proud of you.

Yeah.

Instead of I'm jealous of you tells me about where you are at.

But I think like,

so many women have a hard time and this gets into the second part of talking to your friends have a hard time actually talking about their successes with other women because your girlfriends will be there for you when you need a shoulder to cry on it's always nice to like have a fun story for the group chat you know but actually it's when you're winning yeah that is really hard to talk to your friends because if you are in the wrong circle

sharing your success sounds like bragging yeah yeah and on top of that in many cases we have again brainwashed ourselves into thinking that there's only room enough at the top for one of us yeah and i very much ascribed to that belief for a long time because it was true when i started my career as a trader on jp morgan there was only one other woman on the desk she was my manager

she was 16 years my senior and there was no other woman.

Like there was a 16 year gap between her and me and there were no other girls on the team.

Like, what does that say?

Like there was always only allowed to be one token girl.

And when one of the women was starting to get more senior, then we'd have to hire one more.

And it's like, wait,

we didn't have that rule about white guys yeah we certainly there were 30 40 other white guys so like I think we have to stop convincing ourselves that people that look like us need to fight over the crumb they're willing to give us just cut me a bigger slice of the pie we need to take more there need to be more women CEOs there need to be more women in c-suite positions there need to be more women

who own businesses, who own companies, who are founders, who are getting VC funding, who are talking to each other about how much they make, what they're spending, what they're actually earning, taking home, what they're paying their employees.