Walden Yan

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387 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 28 May

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But I think a big part of what we do at Cognition as well is to just make sure that your company knows
learns and uses and adopts these coding agents.
Because I think for especially the largest enterprises in the world, you find that there is a lot of people who want to move over to using AI for their day-to-day workloads.
But because of the way projects are planned, because not everyone is literate in using AI in these ways, having a team of engineers who can actually go in and onboard you, set up all the integrations you need, the automations you need to really get to that level of leverage with AI is super helpful.
And so we do that.
We show a bit of thought partners to the customers that we work with as well.
I think a lot of that, what you mentioned, is why we actually, from the start, built Devon to what we called separate the brain from the machine.
The other thing that this allows you to do is reuse any existing infrastructure you have for dev boxes, perhaps.
And so you don't have to worry as much about making a new type of dev box that
has all the dependencies the brain needs, as you mentioned, the secrets the brain needs as well.
Like one thing that we've seen some customers run into is like you have a GitHub app and you want Devin, your agent, whatever, be able to interact with GitHub through this application, but then you have different users with different actual permissions.
If they are all interacting through the same GitHub app and there's no actual like separation between the system that decides
uh what it does and the actual secrets on the machine then you kind of run into an issue where okay it's hard to do the separation but in practice with devon it's much easier because we just say whatever you put on the machine that is like kind of the scope of basically what the you
user is free to do, what the agent is free to do.
So only put the most scoped secrets on that machine.
And then the brain is fully not accessible from the machine.
So you don't have to worry about messing with any of the most secure parts of the brain if the user is free to do whatever they want with the machine.
One thing I've not seen a lot of other players do well is how do you manage what's actually on the box?
And this can be complex for many reasons.
Like, let's say you have a big repository that's changing and updating a lot with changing dependencies.
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