Walter Kirn
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1,232 appearances
7 recordings
1 series
first heard Feb 2025
last heard 24 Nov
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So you've got two very proud and very vain partners in this negotiation who are finding a way for each other to save face, but they both have real objectives. On Trump's part, he wants to bring back manufacturing to some extent. He wants to reduce this trade deficit. And he wants to kind of bring back especially very vital industries, chip making, various defense technologies, and so on.
I think we're closer to getting those things than we were before. And you said both sides are waving the white flag. Well, that's logically impossible. You can't have double surrender.
Megan, it was only years after the Cuban Missile Crisis that we found out that Kennedy made a deal with the Russians to withdraw missiles from Turkey. The Cuban Missile Crisis for many years was portrayed as a total American win. We backed down the Soviet Union and they took their missiles out of Cuba. We later found out that we made a huge concession in order to get that.
So the thought that we can look behind the curtain and know who's won what and who's getting what and where it's leading at this early date is folly. But I think it's important for both sides that the things that they do concede, they're not embarrassed by.
I've seen some of it, whether it's accurate or not. And it's pretty modest given the voracious needs of the U.S. Treasury, you know, and spending. It's not something that's going to replace the income tax, certainly tomorrow. Right.
But at the same time, the principle of raising money off of people who want to trade with us and just as in the drug pharmaceutical drug issue, creating a little bit more of a level playing field after, you know, years of what Trump contends is being taken advantage of. You can be content with marginal gains if you're moving in the right directions. And also. This negotiation isn't over.
It'll probably be going on in some fashion for the first half of his administration.
Don't wear red if you plan to be an aggressive rioter. This is rioting 101. I could follow every move. Everybody else was in dull green and uniforms and so on. And here's this big scarlet cardinal throwing her weight around. And I mean, we've been talking about weight loss drugs, but she had a lot of heft to throw around. And, you know, that matters in fighting. That matters. They do. It's true.
You know, arrange fighting by weight class.
Yeah, she she was in the upper classes of the weight class thing there. OK, so. You know, since January 6th, we've been told that any form of unruly behavior on the part of people who, you know, are protesting government policy is it is terrible. Interaction tantamount to overthrowing the Constitution. But, of course, this isn't. They want a special category for this.
They're just doing oversight. It looked like Black Thursday, Megan. Everything in American politics is starting to look like Black Thursday, you know, as people try to get that cheap Walmart TV before the rest of the people that are. That our civic life and Congress people are adding to this has degenerated into some kind of Donnybrook that you'd see outside, you know, a Best Buy on Black Friday.
Right. Is really sad. And I hate to be I don't mean to be conspiratorial, but they were there knowing this was going to happen. They were there. They wanted the attention. They were there to get in people's faces. And she wore red for it the same way you wear red to an awards dinner, so you'll stick out.
And AOC's You Lay a Finger, all this kind of Jenny from the block, you know, I'm just Bronx rock. girl telling you, you know, what's going on. This, this, I, I hate to put it this way, but this kind of, you know, streetification of our politics where everybody's acting like, you know, they're a crip or a blood or a, you know, Latin King or whatever. Yeah. Jasmine Crockett is, is,
It's not an orchestrated plan, but it seems to be something it seems to be a temptation that they're all giving into. You know, maybe this kind of works on TV. Maybe American voters are at the point where we can just turn this into, you know, wrestling, not not like wrestling, but wrestling.
Oh, obviously it got attention. This is the Democrat version of Trump's chew toy. They're going to have to stage a Donnybrook, a free for all, you know, hit each other with chairs on the stadium floor every couple of weeks because they use it to illustrate social problems. They think that they get the best of this because they send an anti-authoritarian message. But
But from what I just saw there, the ICE agents, the last thing they want to be doing is getting body checked by big ladies in red dresses. They are not acting aggressively. Their job is not to go after Congress people. It's to act as police and guards in this facility. Unless you're going to question the right of the facility to exist, then why come bashing in there? I mean...
America has institutions which are policed, prisons, detention facilities, all kinds of things. And you come running in there and trying to
start something and i don't think the first thing that the ice agent wants to do is come out of that the bully um they seem to be backing up all over the place and when you look at the crowd shots they're in the minority they're outnumbered the um spokesperson for uh
I think it pays no dividend at all. One of the talking points for the Democrats has been that Trump ushers in chaos. And so in order to reaffirm that with the people, they have to keep stirring chaos. So expect this to keep going on.
That's a good point. But going back to the Luigi killing, what we've seen since Trump was elected was an inability to prevail at the ballot box, followed by this kind of renaissance in direct action at the street level, civil disobedience, all the way to David Brooks writing in the New York Times, it's time to have an uprising or Or J.B.
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