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Waylon Wong

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Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

For some people, diversification might mean, OK, instead of putting all of our savings into Apple stock, maybe we'll buy some IBM stock or McDonald's stock.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

Maybe we'll buy a little piece of every company in the S&P 500.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

This is why some people really like catastrophe bonds, because they tend to be so uncorrelated with your other investments.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

You know, the profits or losses at Microsoft and McDonald's have very little to do with chances that, say, a typhoon will or won't hit the Philippines next year.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

And Ethan says when you put cat bonds side by side with corporate bonds that are similarly risky, some cat bonds will pay you a lot more interest.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

When Ethan first got into cat bonds in the 2000s, the market was tiny.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

Over the past couple years, they have exploded into an almost $60 billion market, and one that is still growing exponentially.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

At the same time, more and more insurance companies are turning to cat bonds to solve one of their big problems right now, which is climate change.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

The research says that hurricanes are getting more intense.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

Wildfires are becoming more frequent.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

In high-risk places like California and Florida, a lot of insurance companies are pulling out.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

They're like, this is too much risk for us.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

And so investors like Ethan are helping citizens provide insurance to people living in risky areas.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

Ethan's firm owns some of those cat bonds from citizens.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

The latest ones pay investors between 8 and 13 percent interest.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

And he knows that if a big hurricane hits Florida, he's going to lose his investment.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

And he kind of likes that part.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

After the break, we talked to someone who tried to take the idea one step further.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

He thought, what if cat bonds could help people suffering from Ebola?

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

And we're starting to see more and more unusual types of risk getting packaged and put onto the market, like cat bonds for terrorism risk or cyber attacks.