Wendy Patrick

The assistant...

This is Wendy Patrick.

It looks like the assistant that was living with Matthew Perry at the time of his death was a man named Kenny Awamasa.

Right.

Not a prior girlfriend or a female assistant.

When you're talking about somebody that's supposed to be a confidant, a sponsor, a helper, a minder, we have all these terminology, these terms that we use.

It's very different than a Michael Jackson situation where you actually have somebody medically administering a drug.

Who would do it?

I would have to say, Nancy, as you and I and our listeners know, the same people that are selling drugs,

to begin with, maybe somebody that doesn't know him well enough, or because it was prescribed lawfully for a medicinal purpose, somebody that honestly, although mistakenly, thought that he needed it or could handle it in different doses.

Ketamine, if it's being supervised, is used, certainly not as often as many other drugs,

But you have to believe whether or not somebody thought they might be doing him a favor if he was depressed, if he was suicidal.

Yeah, it's so unfortunate.

hear about some of these famous people because they're famous think about how many men and women friends neighbors family members die in the same way but maybe don't just grab headlines it's one of the reasons we always want to reach out sooner rather than later to for people that are struggling and I like the way in that last clip they talked a little bit about what happens after the fame you know one of the things that Matthew Perry said he said taking K is like being hit in the head with a giant happy shovel but the hangover is

outweighed the benefits.

And that's part of what I think celebrities are getting better at explaining and that, yes, perhaps they're self-medicating, but it's not worth it in the end.

And that's one of the messages that Matthew Perry wanted to leave us with.