Wendy Zukerman

Is he mad at me?

Does making a podcast count?

That's not true, kids.

Don't let Wendy do revisionist history.

I see his point, though.

Of course.

It's like the precautionary principle, right?

You know, better to be safe than sorry.

At the same time, you doesn't really give people license to get out over their skis and say that we have proof that we don't have.

It's bad for science more broadly.

You know, if there was no potential benefit to vaping, it would be very easy to close the book on this to say like, OK, this is enough evidence to just assume it does and tell people quit it.

Don't vape.

I'd be like, of course, if there is evidence that this thing, you know, playing the kazoo.

Is potentially carcinogenic.

And we have animal studies.

We have petri dish studies.

We have kazoo players have higher levels of this chemical that causes cancer.

Everyone stop playing the kazoo.

I think that would be, even though we don't have studies saying kazoo players get tons of cancer and die.

And it irritates people around you with its secondhand kazooing.