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But certainly asking that question, you know, if a miracle occurred here in our session and in the coming sessions, what would that miracle look like for you? And how would you know if things are different for you? Tell us about that stuff, Werner. Yeah, so that would be the question I would ask Rhonda. And, of course, the patient, the client would need to answer and see what comes up with that.

But certainly asking that question, you know, if a miracle occurred here in our session and in the coming sessions, what would that miracle look like for you? And how would you know if things are different for you? Tell us about that stuff, Werner. Yeah, so that would be the question I would ask Rhonda. And, of course, the patient, the client would need to answer and see what comes up with that.

And, Rhonda, do you remember what you came up with?

And, Rhonda, do you remember what you came up with?

Yeah, and specifically, how would you know that you're able to drive pretty much anywhere?

Yeah, and specifically, how would you know that you're able to drive pretty much anywhere?

Yeah, are there locations that you've been wanting to drive and you haven't had a chance to?

Yeah, are there locations that you've been wanting to drive and you haven't had a chance to?

Okay. Okay. Yeah, and then to move into certainly externalization resistance would be another direction to go. I mean, there are lots of good reasons to not think about or not do this work and not face these anxieties. And that's something that we can look at down the road. But if there was a magic button sitting in front of you, Rhonda, and you push that magic button,

Okay. Okay. Yeah, and then to move into certainly externalization resistance would be another direction to go. I mean, there are lots of good reasons to not think about or not do this work and not face these anxieties. And that's something that we can look at down the road. But if there was a magic button sitting in front of you, Rhonda, and you push that magic button,

And all of these negative thoughts and feelings would just disappear. Would you press that button?

And all of these negative thoughts and feelings would just disappear. Would you press that button?

Yeah. And I totally agree with you about that, given how painful these feelings and these negative thoughts really are and how much it's been limiting your life. I can totally agree with you that I would press that button as well. And yet I'm a little concerned we might be going too quickly here. And I'd like to just take a step back.

Yeah. And I totally agree with you about that, given how painful these feelings and these negative thoughts really are and how much it's been limiting your life. I can totally agree with you that I would press that button as well. And yet I'm a little concerned we might be going too quickly here. And I'd like to just take a step back.

And I'm wondering if you'd be willing to take a look at something with me regarding all of these negative feelings and thoughts that you're having. Are you willing to do that? Sure. Yeah.

And I'm wondering if you'd be willing to take a look at something with me regarding all of these negative feelings and thoughts that you're having. Are you willing to do that? Sure. Yeah.

And at this point, I would introduce the positive reframe and what all of these thoughts and feelings are really saying about Rhonda that are pretty awesome and terrific, that they really reveal a set of values and desires about her. And what do you think your feelings really say about all this, Rhonda, that your sadness, what do you think that says about you that's pretty awesome?

And at this point, I would introduce the positive reframe and what all of these thoughts and feelings are really saying about Rhonda that are pretty awesome and terrific, that they really reveal a set of values and desires about her. And what do you think your feelings really say about all this, Rhonda, that your sadness, what do you think that says about you that's pretty awesome?

Yeah. Yeah. So you value that freedom and the ability to move through life and not be so hindered and encumbered with this anxiety. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So you value that freedom and the ability to move through life and not be so hindered and encumbered with this anxiety. Yeah.