Werner Spitzfaden

And what jumped out at me at that point was initially I was going to do a double standard technique, and then I decided to move into a paradoxical double standard technique with a slight variation built into it. And...

And what jumped out at me at that point was initially I was going to do a double standard technique, and then I decided to move into a paradoxical double standard technique with a slight variation built into it. And...

said to Rhonda, you know, that can you imagine yourself as a little girl, that innocent little girl that's about seven, six, seven years old, and the one that's really playful and has this free spirit and is just very loving. And you were able to identify what at that moment, Rhonda, you...

said to Rhonda, you know, that can you imagine yourself as a little girl, that innocent little girl that's about seven, six, seven years old, and the one that's really playful and has this free spirit and is just very loving. And you were able to identify what at that moment, Rhonda, you...

Yeah, and this technique can be used whether you use it with, let's say, a six- or seven-year-old niece that you might have that you feel a lot of loving feelings towards, right? But then you really have the sense, and I had that from you, Rhonda, I just had the sense of recognizing just how harsh and harmful those negative thoughts really have been for you.

Yeah, and this technique can be used whether you use it with, let's say, a six- or seven-year-old niece that you might have that you feel a lot of loving feelings towards, right? But then you really have the sense, and I had that from you, Rhonda, I just had the sense of recognizing just how harsh and harmful those negative thoughts really have been for you.

And the other important part of this cognitive work, David, really had to do with with the fact that it created a level of agitation and anger that really promoted anxiety. And I thought that that was really, at least in my approach, was really important in that moment. And of course, we also then developed a more positive thought around that. And can you read that for us, Rhonda?

And the other important part of this cognitive work, David, really had to do with with the fact that it created a level of agitation and anger that really promoted anxiety. And I thought that that was really, at least in my approach, was really important in that moment. And of course, we also then developed a more positive thought around that. And can you read that for us, Rhonda?

Yeah, let me clarify that. So that self-abuse creates a kind of agitation within us, right? That I'm already expressing a lot of internal anger at myself and that that really becomes a springboard for the anxiety. Not necessarily the only cause, but definitely a springboard, if that makes sense.

Yeah, let me clarify that. So that self-abuse creates a kind of agitation within us, right? That I'm already expressing a lot of internal anger at myself and that that really becomes a springboard for the anxiety. Not necessarily the only cause, but definitely a springboard, if that makes sense.

Yeah. The the and the other part of it is there's another book that I brought into. Obviously, when panic attacks, there's a beautiful example in there of I think it was Kim, the example of her driving phobia and panic. rubbery legs and where sweat was pouring off her hands and so forth.

Yeah. The the and the other part of it is there's another book that I brought into. Obviously, when panic attacks, there's a beautiful example in there of I think it was Kim, the example of her driving phobia and panic. rubbery legs and where sweat was pouring off her hands and so forth.

But a lot of the similar kinds of fears about bridges collapsing and so forth that I thought was very powerful as well. And with this particular event, um, example is that the amygdala also gets, you know, that's that part of the brain that signals danger.

But a lot of the similar kinds of fears about bridges collapsing and so forth that I thought was very powerful as well. And with this particular event, um, example is that the amygdala also gets, you know, that's that part of the brain that signals danger.

And, um, uh, in this case, when we're that self abusive and we're that negative and lack compassion towards ourselves, it immediately starts to signal danger already. And so that's why it's such an important piece of this. Um, it's such a big trigger, um, So, yeah, so Rhonda came up with some positive thoughts, and so I'm going to ask, can you read that one, what the positive thought was, Rhonda?

And, um, uh, in this case, when we're that self abusive and we're that negative and lack compassion towards ourselves, it immediately starts to signal danger already. And so that's why it's such an important piece of this. Um, it's such a big trigger, um, So, yeah, so Rhonda came up with some positive thoughts, and so I'm going to ask, can you read that one, what the positive thought was, Rhonda?

Yeah. And then some of the other is that I'm so dumb for not driving on the overpass.

Yeah. And then some of the other is that I'm so dumb for not driving on the overpass.

Yeah, so it's addressing the dumb part, right, that you're actually pretty crafty and resourceful. And so is that a good quality to have? Yeah.

Yeah, so it's addressing the dumb part, right, that you're actually pretty crafty and resourceful. And so is that a good quality to have? Yeah.