Will Chamberlain
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298 appearances
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2 series
first heard Apr 2025
last heard 10 Jul
Will Chamberlain’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Yes.
Great to be with you, Megan.
For the recent weirdness, I agree. The government has somehow probably finagled his release from El Salvador in prison. And the reason I say that is Judge Zinnis had been very aggressive with the government about trying to locate this guy and very dismissive of the government's concerns.
So, for her to suddenly stop being so aggressive on that front and agree to a week-long stay, I don't see happening on her own accord. I don't see happening unless there is some sort of arrangement being made for this guy to, who knows, maybe be at the El Salvadoran embassy, maybe just be released from custody in El Salvador proper, but...
something that the plaintiffs would be okay with, because the other thing is that the plaintiffs agreed to this stay of discovery, and they'd also been extremely aggressive in trying to get these things done.
Well, I mean, I think the reasonable course here is to either with him still in El Salvador or when he's here, you should go to court and get that withholding of removal lifted. And you can do that honestly without him even being present because you don't even need new evidence.
It's the simplest way to get him removed is to say that because the immigration judge in the Board of Immigration Appeals found that he was a member of MS-13, that he's stopped from challenging that going forward. And since the government declared MS-13 a foreign terrorist organization, it's just a straightforward legal conclusion that the guy is no longer eligible for withholding of removal.
And so he has to go back.
Correct. Yeah. I mean, and if you needed another argument, I don't think you would.
But it's the argument you just talked about, the one about the fact that the Barrio 18 gang that supposedly is extorting his mother's pupusa shop well after its closure, that gang is no longer functional in El Salvador because Nayib Bukele has transformed El Salvador into one of the safest countries in the Western Hemisphere.
Yeah, except that the Western Clique does actually operate in Maryland, and DOJ has routinely claimed that in any number of filings, plea agreements, indictments. I am unclear that the plaintiffs – this claim came from the underlying complaint just filed by one plaintiff's lawyer where he said that the DOJ has said – that they operate in New York, a place where Abrego Garcia has never lived.
As far as I can tell, he basically just invented this out of thin air based on doing one quick search on the DOJ website for Western clique MS-13. And there's only one result that pops up, which is this double murder where a member of the Western clique was actually a victim of the double murder, but it has no analysis of where does the Western clique operate.
And MS-13 cliques operate all around the country. They're I mean, they're generally it's part of the history of MS-13, as I've recently learned, is, you know, it's it started when a bunch of El Salvadoran gangbangers were deported back to El Salvador, I think, under the Reagan administration. And then they took over El Salvador largely.
And then they started sending that, you know, the cliques were actually named after streets in Los Angeles, but they ended up sending people all over the country. So, yeah, the Western clique operates in Maryland. DOJ has said that repeatedly.
And it's honestly, if I were Judge Zinnis, I'd be really embarrassed and very angry at the plaintiff's lawyer because basically his complaint had to be put a blatant and obvious falsehood, in my opinion.
Correct. And I think honestly, the most relevant piece of information, which again was omitted from all the public media reporting, was that the guy was arrested in the company of two other confirmed members of MS-13.
I mean, you know, when I go get coffee sometimes, I guess I get bored. But the concept, like that, that you ask a normal person on the street, well, what would be the most relevant evidence of this person being MS-13? I don't know, hanging out with MS-13 members.
And as a result, you know, you see this poll and it's totally a product of the plaintiff's lawyer and the media working together to just put out falsehoods and otherwise mislead both judges and the public. Uh, and it's pretty clear that the guy is NS 13 and, you know, oddly enough, I think ultimately it really shouldn't matter that much because he isn't a legal alien.
And he was, you know, he was crossed into the country in 2012, got detained in 2019, uh, and somehow still is here in 2025, I mean, it shouldn't matter, but in the sense that there's this massive PR campaign to try and get this guy back, well, yeah, he is actually an MS-13, and also he's a wife-beater, and I don't know why we are eager to return this guy to his family when he was beating his U.S.
citizen wife, and people assume, well, the wife says she wants him back. It's like, well, I mean, is she afraid of what his colleagues might do to her? There's a whole bunch of interesting dynamics that aren't really being explored here.
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