Will Salatin
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first heard Feb 2025
last heard Feb 2025
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Never mind all of the rules that were established about who has the right to have access to these payment systems, who established these programs. I won this one election and therefore anybody I choose, I can send in to run the government. So it's kind of democracy because he got elected, but it's illiberal democracy and it's anti-rule of law democracy.
It is authoritarianism with one election behind it.
Wait, can I pull on your thread there a minute about Hungary? Yeah. Because there's a direct connection here with USAID, right? The Orban regime and the Putin regime hate USAID and they've like spoken out against it and they don't like this whole, you know, what are you guys doing promoting civil society and other, you know, you're interfering in our internal affairs.
So undermining USAID in particular on Trump's part is part and parcel of his, you know, de facto alliance with the authoritarians of the world, right? Here's this annoying agency.
Yeah, right, right. There's an absolutely direct connection. I mean, USAID basically does, you know, good things liberals like. The whole idea of international development is like something. Trump's isolationism, America first, a lot of it is we're tired of being the good guys. We're tired of like giving things to other people. We're tired of helping other people.
We're just going to focus on helping ourselves. And while we're at it, we're going to dismantle this agency that annoys our authoritarian friends.
Yeah, absolutely. So let me just sort of sketch. I know you and Scott are going to do the economics of this. Just want to do the geopolitics at this. There's the NATO threatening to pull out of NATO, which is, you know, I'm abandoning Article 5. I won't defend you. There's the EU. Trump just said twice in the last like three days. He said, am I going to impose tariffs on the European Union?
Absolutely. He said that twice. They also are threatening, of course, Panama and Greenland. Trump said twice in the last two days, we're going to take it back, referring to the Panama Canal. We're going to take it back, okay? Greenland, lots of threats to Greenland. We're picking a war with Denmark, of all things. J.D.
Vance was on TV on Sunday saying that we're going to take more of a territorial interest in Greenland, a territorial interest. Basically, what we have is America first, Trump, Vance means that we are going to target all of our enemies. We're going to pick fights with all of our enemies. Remember, Trump said his whole shtick during the campaign was the other side Democrats are warmongers.
There were no wars. He said at every campaign stop. I never started a war. He's starting a war with our allies. It's an economic war in which you, Mr. and Mrs. America, are the soldiers because you're going to pay at the grocery store and you're going to pay when you buy appliances and cars. He's starting wars for no reason. He chose these wars.
And it's part of, you know, when I talk about Trump being a fascist or this being a fascist movement, people think, OK, that's extreme language. You know, let's not compare him to the Nazis and stuff like that. And, you know, look, we have we don't have people. in, you know, murder camps at this point. But part of fascism is ethnic demagoguery, ethnic scapegoating.
And that we're seeing lots of that already in the first couple of weeks of this administration. You mentioned Darren Beatty got fired before, you know, being a white supremacist, being friends with white supremacists, preaching that stuff. Yeah. That used to be too politically toxic for Trump. He thinks that's an advantage now. They're selling that now.
And Tim, a little bit back to your point about politics. It's still amazing to me that in the 2024 election, Trump got, I believe in the vote cast survey, he got 16% of the black vote and he got 43% of the Latino vote. And a lot of white liberals said, what the hell? I mean, how can you vote for someone who's so overtly bigoted?
And I would like to believe that at some point this will register and those numbers will start to return to recognizing that Donald Trump and his party are enemies of, threats to, insulters of, degraders of minority communities. I mean, this guy has an amazing history.
His campaign, remember the birtherism, Judge Curiel, a Latino judge, was like Mexican heritage, Kamala Harris being a DEI hire, all that stuff. At some point, this needs to register.
Well, you know, it's not clear to me what role little Marco had in this and whether this is sort of, you assume he had to okay it.
They're okaying anything Trump does at this point, right? And Tim, is this to balance things out? You know, we did appoint a Latino secretary of state, so let's balance it out with an anti-Latino, anti, you know, with a white racist.
Public diplomacy. So here we have not just that we have these bigots in office, but we put them in jobs where they're supposed to represent the United States overseas. So we're going to go to Africa. We're going to go to Asia. We're going to go to Latin America with these people. Here, let's put a bigot in charge of public diplomacy.
Let's put Kerry Lake, one of the best known liars, like recidivist liars in our country in charge of the voice of America. There couldn't be a bigger middle finger to the world. And we're basically saying, why should you trust us any more than you would trust the propaganda coming out of regimes in Russia or China?
This happens in other countries. This wasn't supposed to happen here, that a guy gets elected, puts his billionaire friend in charge of the government, gives him special access. I think in Russia, the oligarchs before some of them tangled with Putin had this kind of leverage. Scott Besson and these normies, though, they're no protection.
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