Will Saletan

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The Bulwark Daily · Will Saletan and Scott Lincicome: A Crime Boss Has Taken Over · 3 Feb 2025 podcast

That was his first answer. His first answer was there's this stuff about hiring handicapped people or whatever, disabled people. He switched that and he switched it to white people can't get jobs and that's why we have a shortage, whatever. And then, Tim, it wasn't just Trump. The entire chorus came in. J.D. Vance, Sean Duffy, the new secretary came in.

They all parroted this line about white people not getting... So it's all part and parcel of what you were discussing earlier of like the South Africa thing, the Darren Beatty thing. This is just like revenge of white, anti-Black, anti-Brown racism. And...

It's amazing to me that the reporters and the media coverage of this hasn't been more forceful about, holy cow, the president of the United States is invoking a baseless racial explanation for this terrible thing that happened.

So, Tim, I did watch it, and I want that hour back. Sorry about that. I owe you one. So, I wasn't so much struck by the issues about reaching out to this and that, you know,

group in the rainbow, which obviously in the 2024 campaign hurt them to the extent that voters thought that the Democratic Party, because it cared about transgender people or cared about this or that minority, didn't care about economics. And I don't know how to solve that problem. And I don't want to renounce caring about the issues that affect these groups because they actually matter.

What really struck me from this forum, Tim, was the chaos. I mean, here we have an authoritarian party on the right. And what do we have on the left? We have a party that looked like, from this forum, it was total anarchy. They couldn't get the attendees to behave themselves and just let the forum continue.

you know, it's the old Will Rogers line about how it's, you know, not an organized political party. And Ken Martin himself had, you know, his pitch to the crowd was like, the DNC should not be putting a finger on the scale in primaries. The DNC should not be dictating things.

They asked the candidates, Tim, when one candidate wins the presidential primary, should the DNC become an extension of the presidential campaign, which is normal. That's what happens, right? And like one person raised their hand And they're all looking at each other like because they're afraid. There's like nobody leading the party. Everyone's trying to cater to the audience.

And so if the audience cares about this or that pet issue, that's what happens. You kind of need somebody who will represent what they think the party should stand for, regardless of what the people in the crowd are saying.

Okay. Okay, Tim.

But what do you do about the fact that that's bullshit? What do you do about the fact that the OCD level obsession with non-binary, you know, two of this and one of that and three of that. It's absurd.

Right. Okay. That's all ridiculous, but it's niche, right? It's like this. It's not the essence of the party. But Republicans managed to take that wherever it exists and make it look like that's the essence of the party.

Okay, but you've picked out that procedural vote, that 90 seconds or two minutes of Jamie Harrison. Okay, that's stupid. But like, no, in reality, they did talk about a lot of economic issues. It's just that that doesn't get the attention.

Maybe people think it's like exotic, you know, and so it gets more news when they talk about, you know, three non-binary whatever's that have to be on the committee.

I don't think... I mean, if you... Like, you mentioned Faiz Shakir. Like, he was talking about the whole Bernie campaign.

Let me put in a plug for one guy who was at that thing and didn't win. Martin O'Malley, the former governor of Maryland, right? And he was really good. He wasn't going to win, didn't win, but he's a really good spokesman for the party. He's very good at being on message. And his message is about working people and basic material issues that they care about.

But the question that your comments raised for me, Tim, is, do you think that if the Democrats talk at all about transgender, about this and that group in the rainbow, about two of this and three of that, at any point in a two-hour forum, that that is going to void everything they say about economics.

Yeah, Tim, I'd love to believe that. I just haven't seen it yet. And I would put it to you, and you tell me whether I'm wrong, that what you just said about kicking transgender people out of the military, it's better than what Jamie Harrison said.

But I'm betting you that Trump and his people would just take what you said and make an ad repeating the same message that Democrats, because Democrats care about transgender people, they don't care about you. And it would have the same effect.

You are a Denver Nuggets fan. I am. I'm a Houston Rockets fan. So, what we have here is a couple of, not small market, but smaller market fans complaining about, first of all, why the hell the Lakers always get these people, right? Yeah. Why the Lakers don't need this? They've got how many championships in their history, right? It's obscene, right? And this is so dumb, this Luca trade.

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