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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
No, I mean, you know, it's, I think often, you know, and there are certain people, you know, who I cover who have sort of a sense of humor about it.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
And so,
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
They're personally nice, even if they're up to awful things for the country and other people.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
Some of them are not, and they're rude and unpleasant people, and I think seriously bad guys.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
But on the other hand, at least we can take solace in the fact that I think for a lot of these right-wing media personalities, karma does catch up to them.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
I think about people who are just really awful people, and then they'll get indicted.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
The We Build the Wall guy was running a grift.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
or they'll turn out in some cases to be a pedophile or texting underage boys or something.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
And so often there is sort of a recompense waiting.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
Yeah, I mean, I think the sort of the world of sort of like right wing media influencers, social media figures has gotten a lot bigger.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
I think they've gotten more influential.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
I mean, you know, if you had said to me a decade ago or,
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
You know, whenever seven years ago, Laura Loomer changed herself up to Twitter headquarters.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
And if you had said, by the way, you know, in a few years, she'll be getting people fired from the presidential administration or, you know, able to block refugees from visiting America, stuff like this.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
I would have said, no, that lady, she's nuts.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
And she still is.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
But now she has all this influence.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
Or, you know, I think the audiences have gotten bigger.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
And I think so much of the right now is really being controlled and influenced by these personalities.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
I look at like Fox News and obviously they have a huge audience, but I don't I don't think those people are really deciding what the direction of the party is, what the future is going to look like.