Will Sommer

You know, they are people who are living in their homes.

They seem like otherwise regular people who might be watching The Bachelor or something like that.

And then they're also tuning in like a soap opera to this kind of Candace Owen versus Erica Kirk thing.

So I think she's very influential.

I mean, when I talk to, you know, regular people, I mean, people know who Candace Owens is.

As you said, she's huge on TikTok, among other things.

Yeah.

I mean, I think people keep tuning in because it's there's this drama.

And I mean, I think it was savvy of her.

She's played this thing with Erica Kirk very well.

I think, you know, I felt like she was kind of running out of steam in terms of the conspiracy material.

If you actually listen to the show, and I would not recommend people listen to it as intensely as I do, but you'll kind of tune out.

It's like, wait, it's about a Ron Contra now?

How did this get involved?

She doesn't do a great job of explaining it.

But Turning Point, I think they made this decision about two weeks ago.

OK, you know, they were kind of like saying some of her stuff was accurate, some of her text messages and I think trying to mollify her.

And then there was this sense of, OK, enough's enough.

We have this big conference coming up, America Fest at the end of this week.

Let's close the book here.