William 'Blinky' Rodriguez

Like they were kind of teasing people with that fight?

But the thing with Alex, that showed somebody that's gone away and come back home can make it.

If he could win the silver medal for the United States of America in the World Games when we had boycotted the Olympics...

That was just part of the proof.

And so now when you're getting guys into union jobs, you're getting guys with tattoo removal that's going on.

You're doing advocacy in the courtrooms and you're just being able to roll out, there's education going on.

And there's a response to yellow tape, the CVI, the Community Violence Intervention Programs that are now nationwide.

They've become a movement.

Yeah, tattoos, but yeah, mostly, you know, just things of people's past that holds them back.

Yeah, so now, you know, there's another thing that's going on with tattoos, you know, where it's no laser removal.

There's some new technology and stuff that I'm talking to people about that you don't have to go through getting laser and ow and ooh, and you can hear that laser going off.

So what's it about?

It's about meeting the needs of people.

It's about touching lives.

You know what I mean?

It's about showing them another way and having the ability to open up a door that they can get through.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hey, Joe, so, you know, you may mention right now one of the hardest things to do is lose someone.