William Costello

And women often talk about that there's a lot of pressure to have all of these.

And probably because...

They come up against each other at awkward times.

So just at the point when women are beginning to really thrive in their careers towards the end of their 20s, that's the point where they really, really want to start a family.

And, you know, the gender pay gap is really a motherhood penalty kind of gap.

And men, if they took a break from...

Yeah, because there's a lot of evidence, I believe in 22 specific cities in the US, it's very apparent that women are actually even out-earning men up until the age of 29.

And then it flips because that's the precise age when women are kind of exiting the workforce necessarily if they want to have children.

If men had to take time off work to have children, they would probably suffer a penalty as well.

So, you know, I'm all for doing all sorts of initiatives, make childcare easier, more support there, follow like a Scandinavian model to help people get back into work after having a family, all for that.

But it's absolutely the case that women just when they're about to really thrive in their career.

And it baffles me when people speak about the gender pay gap on a very one-dimensional level.

And speaking to you with your CEO hat on, you'll probably realize this.

You don't want to lose the female talent you have at that age, right?

Nobody does.

So it's, you know, and you see these cultural kind of corporate drivers, Morgan Stanley releasing this, you know, report talking about how it's the rise of the she economy and how

The majority of working age women will be single and childless by the year 2040.

And it's like, you know, is this the vision?

Is this the dream?

I don't know if that's the case for most women.