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William Martin

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
926 total appearances

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The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

use that tool the entire time instead of just being like okay you guys can go do a training mission now bye because i mean in the in the park service report they have this meeting on the 20th with the national park service and they're like okay so if and when we find dennis here's how we run the op and then they are gone no more reports nothing else about what the green berets are doing like

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

use that tool the entire time instead of just being like okay you guys can go do a training mission now bye because i mean in the in the park service report they have this meeting on the 20th with the national park service and they're like okay so if and when we find dennis here's how we run the op and then they are gone no more reports nothing else about what the green berets are doing like

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

It's like, oh, they went across Eagle Creek, they walked up it, they set up a helicopter landing spot in Haw Gap, and... That's it. Nothing else. For five days, they're just there, and then they're gone.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

It's like, oh, they went across Eagle Creek, they walked up it, they set up a helicopter landing spot in Haw Gap, and... That's it. Nothing else. For five days, they're just there, and then they're gone.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

Well, that's interesting because I'm almost positive this was from Dwight McCarter's book. I wish I had it in front of me right now. But if I remember correctly, McCarter said he heard gunshots on a few occasions.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

Well, that's interesting because I'm almost positive this was from Dwight McCarter's book. I wish I had it in front of me right now. But if I remember correctly, McCarter said he heard gunshots on a few occasions.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

Gotcha. Cause that seemed to be, that was a hot button. Like, were they relatives? Were they not relatives was no hard to share the same.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

Gotcha. Cause that seemed to be, that was a hot button. Like, were they relatives? Were they not relatives was no hard to share the same.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

I'm sure I'll find it. So we've been there. And now I'm more confused. Because if they told him, go north and make your own way around, there's a way for him to get lost. Right. If they just told him go back to the trail shelter, all he needed to do was go downhill. Right. Like the shelter itself would not necessarily have been visible from where he was, but all he needed to do was go downhill.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

I'm sure I'll find it. So we've been there. And now I'm more confused. Because if they told him, go north and make your own way around, there's a way for him to get lost. Right. If they just told him go back to the trail shelter, all he needed to do was go downhill. Right. Like the shelter itself would not necessarily have been visible from where he was, but all he needed to do was go downhill.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

It gave him a more obvious.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

It gave him a more obvious.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

Well, so that's the thing is if they're up there at the top and they say, Dennis, go back to the shelter. they're going to know if he went the wrong way immediately.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

Well, so that's the thing is if they're up there at the top and they say, Dennis, go back to the shelter. they're going to know if he went the wrong way immediately.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

So that would, in my opinion, probably take him out to Davenport Gap. Yeah. And towards Tremont, which lines up with the Key sighting from what I think Key saw. On the other hand, if he did go straight down the hill and he just went past the shelter because he didn't see it, that would have taken him to Eagle Creek. Yeah.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

So that would, in my opinion, probably take him out to Davenport Gap. Yeah. And towards Tremont, which lines up with the Key sighting from what I think Key saw. On the other hand, if he did go straight down the hill and he just went past the shelter because he didn't see it, that would have taken him to Eagle Creek. Yeah.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

Yep. And guess who investigated those footprints? Who? Green Berets. That was not the Rangers. That was the Green Berets who got down there. The story from the Park Service or the FBI, I can't remember which report it was in, was like, ah, well, it was the wrong shoe size. They didn't have a shoe to compare it to.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

Yep. And guess who investigated those footprints? Who? Green Berets. That was not the Rangers. That was the Green Berets who got down there. The story from the Park Service or the FBI, I can't remember which report it was in, was like, ah, well, it was the wrong shoe size. They didn't have a shoe to compare it to.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

Yeah, one foot bare, one had a shoe on it.

The Lore Lads
The Cases That Haunt Us | Podcast Episode 149

Yeah, one foot bare, one had a shoe on it.