William Martin

I mean, I could even see it being like he like took off his shoe because there was something in it and then dropped it.

I mean, I could even see it being like he like took off his shoe because there was something in it and then dropped it.

And then it was like chasing it down the hill and got lost.

And then it was like chasing it down the hill and got lost.

It could have been any number of things. But no, hearing that it wasn't go that way and sneak around on them, but instead it was just go back to the shelter.

It could have been any number of things. But no, hearing that it wasn't go that way and sneak around on them, but instead it was just go back to the shelter.

That makes the Eagle Creek thing way more feasible. Because I was so confused up there. I'm like, how do you take a wrong turn? If you're up at the trail and your plan is to come down from the north, you just do a little, you know, it's like 200 yards and then south. Super weird.

That makes the Eagle Creek thing way more feasible. Because I was so confused up there. I'm like, how do you take a wrong turn? If you're up at the trail and your plan is to come down from the north, you just do a little, you know, it's like 200 yards and then south. Super weird.

Yeah. Well, I was thinking about, and I was looking at some of what you've done and I was, you know, ah, you know, it would probably help to go see, but you know, cause I think I remember you were talking about Carl Lander specifically and how that, where he went missing is just a field.

Yeah. Well, I was thinking about, and I was looking at some of what you've done and I was, you know, ah, you know, it would probably help to go see, but you know, cause I think I remember you were talking about Carl Lander specifically and how that, where he went missing is just a field.

The gear is the weird part to me because a lot of hiking gear is brightly colored.

The gear is the weird part to me because a lot of hiking gear is brightly colored.

It's hard to disappear with that.

It's hard to disappear with that.

Yeah, it would have to be pretty big off the mountain.

Yeah, it would have to be pretty big off the mountain.

I don't know what it is with people in avalanches, but a lot of people seem to think any time somebody goes missing or dies on a mountain, an avalanche had something to do with it.

I don't know what it is with people in avalanches, but a lot of people seem to think any time somebody goes missing or dies on a mountain, an avalanche had something to do with it.

Oh, yeah. The Outlaw Pass was not an avalanche. Like, definitively wasn't an avalanche. It was probably Catamount Winds.

Oh, yeah. The Outlaw Pass was not an avalanche. Like, definitively wasn't an avalanche. It was probably Catamount Winds.