Willow Defebaugh

Tell us and describe in detail for anyone who's just listening, what are you wearing today?

Okay, my last question.

I'm thinking about younger Patti.

I'm thinking about that fateful moment where you almost might not have thrown those heels into your hiking backpack.

What would you say to a younger version of yourself who maybe didn't feel like they fit about what their life has bloomed into?

And then the second part of that is, what would you say to any queer kids who are listening?

Well said.

And thank you for putting a smile on my face today.

I love you, Willow.

I love you, Patti.

If you take anything away from this conversation, I hope it's an invitation to hit the streets, but also hit the trail and the club.

I'd love for you to think about what it looks like to incorporate a little bit more joy into your life, particularly during these trying times.

Because as Patti points out, it's that joy, it's the community and the celebratory aspect of being alive that gets us through and reminds us what it is that we're striving to protect.

The Nature Of is an Atmos podcast produced by Jesse Baker and Eric Newsom of Magnificent Noise.

Our production staff includes Emmanuel Hapsis and Sabrina Fari.

Our sound designer is Kristen Muller.

Our executive producers are me, Willow Defabaugh, Teresa Perez, Jake Sargent, and Eric Newsom.

Atmos is a non-profit that seeks to re-enchant people with our shared humanity and the Earth through creative storytelling.

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