Willow Defebaugh

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731 appearances 6 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 8 Sep

Willow Defebaugh’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh · Are Plants Intelligent? Zoë Schlanger Has the Answer · 8 Sep 2026 podcast

So I I think, you know, this starts to build towards a point you make in the book that plants aren't just shaped by their environment.

They're also actively shaping their environment through many of the things that we just described.

But can can you speak to that idea a little bit more and this notion that biology is also always ecology?

It really is.

I'm so happy you brought up memory because I wanted you to speak about Venus flytraps.

I love Venus flytraps.

I'm sure many people who are listening love Venus flytraps, but speak about them in relationship to memory.

Totally.

And also, I mean, keeping time in some in some way, right?

And perhaps even more astonishingly, anesthesia works on them?

We'll be back to our conversation in a moment, but first I have an invitation.

If you're enjoying this conversation or the nature of, I would love it if you could share it with a friend.

I think we have this idea that change has to happen at massive scale, but there is great power in one-to-one relationships too.

So if you can bring just one more person to our show, it would make such a difference to help us continue to grow and spread ideas that change the way we live.

Thank you for being here.

I I realize that this is ultimately a question of language.

If something can be rendered unconscious.

Right, here's the whole question.

Mm-hmm.

One might think that they would have had to have been conscious in the first place.

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