Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Libraries Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing

Willow Defebaugh

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
491 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

Did you know you look just like the portrait of Mary Shelley?

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

I said no, but I thought in my soul, I wish I did.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

I mean, I can't imagine why, where you would have gotten that from.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

But you had just spent seven years in Mary Shelley's world, writing your new book, Traversal.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

What drew you to Mary Shelley?

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

Not to mention also the legacy of Frankenstein has been twisted and warped and turned into its own creature.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

You know, when in reality, the original story holds so much wisdom for our world today, not just about ambition and power, but also about what happens when we treat people as, I'll say monsters and how treating someone as monstrous turns them monstrous.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

And I mean, look at our world today.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

Hurt people hurt people.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

So as you mentioned, Traversal interweaves the narratives of a number of revolutionary scientific and literary minds.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

But it also really reads to me like a love letter to chemistry, chance, connection.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

Would you say that these are the central forces of your life, all life?

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

I mean, we're talking about this happening with the Cold War as the backdrop, right?

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

And so who's to say what role she played in preventing that from becoming

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

I'm reminded of what you were sharing last night about the transit of Venus, right?

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

Which was in a lot of ways the first truly global scientific experiment.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

And you were sharing how that's kind of a welcome reminder for this moment we're living in where it feels like science is really under attack.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

The search for truth prevails and this moment is not new, right?

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

And I just want to underline what you were sharing that from that, we were able to conceive of the scale of the universe.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

Do you feel personally in this time when, you know, there's such a backlash against science, particularly in this country in which we're having this conversation, do you feel like an urgency to safeguard the scientific history and catalog it the way that you've done with traversal?