Winston Marshall

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1,365 appearances 4 recordings 1 series first heard Aug 2026 last heard 2d ago

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The most famous philosopher was Karl Popper, and he had his open society dichotomy.

Good societies are liberal, democratic, free, bad ones are fascists, Nazis.

So far so good.

I mean I agree, I mean

But he then lumps in nationalism and religion into the fascist and

Nazi side of things.

So that's one false dichotomy he's he's made.

That's the famous one, but the another one was by a man called Hans Kohn.

who was published a book on nationalism in nineteen forty four and he creates the ethnic

The ethno nationalist civ s civic nationalist dichotomy, and he puts

In the civic side it's a sort of political acceptance of institutions and

almost a sort of geographical administrative alignment of people.

And in the ethnic side, it's not just blood and soil, it's also culture.

So he puts the culture on that side of things.

Now a lot of people have conflated those things.

And I I think in your argument with Fraser, and it seems also in your argument with Rishi now, is that culture is doing a a a a kind of

Yo yoing side to side, depending on h who you talk about it.

And Tom, you you actually didn't put it in the ethnic side when you were speaking there.

You put it in the civic side.

But I actually don't think it's a dichotomy.

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