Xavier Becerra

We said, look, we're gonna give you incentives to change your practice into one that can function electronically.

And we're gonna give incentive, incentive, incentive, but at some point,

It's going to become penalty, penalty, penalty if you don't join the real world.

We would do the same thing.

There's a locality.

You have programs, but they're not resulting in success.

Then we have to terminate those programs or stop the funding.

I will then scale those programs that are working.

I'll take the money from the programs that aren't working, and I'll scale those programs that are working.

And that's what you have to do is you have to carrot the stick, but I will use the stick at the end of the day because taxpayers are paying for folks to be pulled off the street.

Mr. Becerra.

Let me give you something uplifting after this conversation.

There is a book called Reign of Gold by Victor Villaseñor, which is all about how if you just put your mind to it, you can lift up your family and have success.

It's the American dream in this book, and it's Reign of Gold.

I love that book.

Ms.

Porter.