Yanis Varoufakis

Good to see you.

Thank you for having me.

Well, it is significant, there is no doubt.

The question is what kind of significance are we detecting in this very confusing stage that we found ourselves in.

Just seeing the picture that you put on your screen reminded me that this is not the first time he does it.

Remember, only a few months ago, he declared himself to be the owner, the person who has actually annexed, personally, that has never happened in history before, Gaza.

He declared himself to be the head of a company that is taking over Gaza.

And then, of course, before we had the chance to scratch our heads and see what that means for the people of Gaza, whose lives are devastated and whose genocide is continuing, he abducts Maduro.

And he declares himself to be the acting ruler or owner of Venezuela.

and then on the same day he talks about Greenland.

I wouldn't be surprised if this confusion is strategic and the whole point is to continue to build up a reputation for accumulating territories, accumulating companies, accumulating stablecoins, accumulating different kinds of resources

for himself and his clique, in order to make it far more alluring for powerful people around the world, in the United States as well, to do deals with him, hoping to get some crumbs off his overladen table.

Well, there's no such thing as the United States.

We should never talk in terms of national interest.

There is no such thing.

There are different cliques, there are different ruling classes, and they have different interests.

The interest of some of the majority of the people in the United States never had anything to do with the agenda and the strategy of democratic presidents, of republican presidents.

I'm just stating this so that you know where I'm coming from.

But there is a strategic plan.

And, you know, one of the great mistakes of the democrats...