Yoshua Bengio

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2,216 appearances 5 recordings 5 series first heard Oct 2018 last heard 7 May

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Because I think that it's probably even more likely that we end up there than actually loss of control.
Well, the reason for this is I now see a path to actually avoid loss of control, at least unintended loss of control.
There's still the issue that somebody who wants to see humanity replaced by AIs could just...
remove the guardrail or even tell the AI, you know, fend for yourself.
And that would be equally dangerous.
But that means technical safety is not sufficient.
Like we need international agreements about how to both manage the risks, the technical risks, like the misuse risks, but also manage the power.
So it's more like a democratic question and
making sure it's not a single party who can decide what to do with AI, but that they, just like in democratic principles, we need to make sure that there's a diverse group of stakeholders, ideally the whole world.
I like the utopian idea of worldwide democracy, but initially it could be a bunch of countries that decide that
they're going to collectively decide in which direction AI is going to be used.
And the most, sort of the simplest form of treaty would be something like this, that the countries agree that they will, if they do develop advanced AI, that it will be done in a safe way.
So maybe using techniques like scientist AI or whatever else we have strong assurances for.
Second, that they wouldn't use their advanced AI to dominate others.
And that includes economically, but of course, politically and militarily.
And finally, that the benefits of AI, of advanced AI, will be shared.
And otherwise, it's not going to be a very stable world.
So I think to answer your question, it's important to understand why is it that the companies currently are, in my opinion at least, and the opinion of many people, taking excessive risks or are on a trajectory that isn't very reassuring.
And the reason is essentially the race dynamics, the competition, the competition between companies and the competition between countries, the geopolitical competition.
That makes those entities, whether it's a country or a company, be willing to take risks that they wouldn't otherwise.
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