Yoshua Bengio

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80,000 Hours Podcast · #243 – 'Godfather of AI' Yoshua Bengio: "I now see a path" to safe superintelligent AI · 7 May 2026 podcast

I completely agree.

And I would go even further.

So it's not just the issue that the monitor

could be deceptive and say, yes, it's okay when it's not, because somehow that's aligned with some hidden goals of self-preservation or power seeking.

But it's also, if we go a little bit down the line, what companies are planning to do with using AI for AI research.

So this is a place where having AI that is secretly deceptive is even more of a dangerous bet, right?

So if we're going to put...

all of our trust into a system that will design the code and the algorithms that will be too complicated for us to understand or to read fully.

That kind of AI could put back doors that we don't see

into an AI system in the future that is even more powerful, right?

And so we could get into this direction that gets even more dangerous for us.

So it would be, I think, very, very dangerous to do that.

And that is why in terms of policy, the attention given to AI for AI research is something that should be very high on the agenda.

And this is also why

Yeah.

As I said, we should try all of those things.

They're not mutually exclusive.

It would be a mistake to put all our eggs into the cat and mouse game when at a cost that is a fraction of what companies are currently spending, we could be developing a safe version of AI that will be capable.

And by the way, I want to add something here about capability.

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