Yoshua Bengio

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80,000 Hours Podcast · #243 – 'Godfather of AI' Yoshua Bengio: "I now see a path" to safe superintelligent AI · 7 May 2026 podcast

guaranteed truth that are easy to obtain.

And by the way, it is the same data that is currently used to train those systems to reason.

So mathematical theorems for which we have the proof, and I mean proofs in like lean or something like this, where they can be verified,

And the most important source actually is computer programs.

So we are currently training the Frontier models to predict what the consequences of running a particular program would be.

So they basically understand programs.

And that is all like hard facts.

You take a program, you run it, you get some output.

And an AI that understands programs should be able to predict what will come out.

And yeah, these are not contestable.

Yeah, but we're kind of more interested in the social world, I would think.

Totally, totally.

But what I'm saying is,

There are pretty easy sources of hard facts.

There's another source, which is maybe a little bit, we have to be a bit careful and maybe use a different kind of syntax, which is scientific observation.

So there's a lot of scientific data out there.

Scientists share their data, right?

So it is a hard fact, but it is a fact about an observation.

Of course, the observation could be noisy or maybe even the experimenter could have cheated, but

There's a bit of noise there, but that's fine.

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