Yoshua Bengio

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2,216 appearances 5 recordings 5 series first heard Oct 2018 last heard 7 May

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80,000 Hours Podcast · #243 – 'Godfather of AI' Yoshua Bengio: "I now see a path" to safe superintelligent AI · 7 May 2026 podcast

So one way I like to think about this is something like the Buddhists say these things, that to fight an emotion that somehow makes you do the wrong thing, just reason alone is weak for most people.

You need another emotion that sort of counters the emotion that pushes you in the wrong direction.

And for me, the other emotion that's very powerful is love, love of my children.

I couldn't just live with myself with the idea that I would just go on after Chad GPT came out and not do something about it because I felt like

I couldn't hide from myself the possibility that we were on track for something terrible.

I knew that neural nets were by construction very difficult to control, and especially with reinforcement learning.

I don't know why it works for some people and not for others, but really for me, it was an emotion that helped me counter the unconscious drive to look the other way.

It's a lot of work, but we need to take one by one each of the arguments that people...

I bring up against acting with precaution.

And it's not very effective, but it is a necessary part of being honest about what we're doing and honest with ourselves.

So for a while, I was concerned, but I was hoping that somebody would have an answer for me that would reassure me.

And then he looked.

And then I looked.

And then I talked to people who thought it would be fine.

And out of that came a lot of conversations that helped me build up the understanding of the arguments.

And unfortunately, it didn't convince me that we were fine.

And so I continued trying to work, but now more on like, how do we fix the problem?

So yeah, I agree with you.

And I think we also have to have the humility that maybe you and I are wrong.

Like maybe it's all going to be fine.

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