Yoshua Bengio

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80,000 Hours Podcast · #243 – 'Godfather of AI' Yoshua Bengio: "I now see a path" to safe superintelligent AI · 7 May 2026 podcast

I think there's a substantial chance that things work okay.

I'm totally at ease with that possibility.

In fact, I hope that we are wrong.

But I think the hottest posture should be

if we don't know who's right among the people who think it's going to be fine and the people who think it's going to be catastrophic, if people would just say, okay, so there is that uncertainty, what do we do about it?

Then the rational thing becomes clear, right?

We need to do at least enough to mitigate the greatest risks.

Exactly.

And so I think there's a big difference between, oh, 50% or even 1% that bad things will happen.

And what I'm proposing with the scientist AI, which is 99.999%, basically, like this kind of scale of safety is where we need to be when we approach superintelligence.

So I'm only talking about deceptive behavior.

And so, yeah, it doesn't solve the power concentration problem, which is why I'm also spending time on that.

By the way, collectively, I don't think we spend enough time on that and we don't discuss it.

But it is, yeah, it has become much more important in my mind because I do think now that there is a way technically to solve the problem of loss of control.

The next biggest risk is like AI dictatorship.

So I think we should encourage the international discussions, even though it's true that the most important decisions are going to be in the US and China.

There are a lot of people in other countries who feel powerless and governments in those countries who feel powerless, but it's a mistake.

People outside the United States and China can do something about it.

And the starting point is to understand the kind of discussion we're having that, yeah, we don't know what's going to happen.

We don't know if we do something is going to help or not, but I think there's a real chance it could, and we have to take those chances.

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