Zach Guthrie

There were three reasons.

The visual cues, which was his behaviour, if you like, that was picked up by people in the stand, let alone anyone else.

It was understanding the history of Elijah and then it was the performance, the fact that he didn't go near the footy.

From this ruling, the soft cap will have a mental health spend that's not accessible under the AFL soft cap policy.

So every club is expected to have a full-time psychologist.

And in the handing down of it, some people satisfied, some not.

Individuals' privacies have been maintained consistently.

medicos and officials have been protected in handing down the football club penalty, not specifically any... An individual.

Yeah.

What do you think?

How did it fall for you?

Well, this is where it landed for me.

It...

Appears to be a negotiated outcome.

And I think that there would be some heavy legal discussion behind the scenes that occurred as a result of that, which means even if the AFL felt that there were individuals that were chiefly responsible for what took place, they weren't going to lay the blame at their feet alone.

Does that...

Are you happy with that or not?

Are you satisfied with that?

I think it's complex.

I think that's really complex and involved.