Zach Lloyd

So yeah, I think it's like, even though it sounds kind of stupid, I think that is the thing.

If you're comparing it to developer productivity tools, like a million percent yes.

The budget for developer productivity tools is not that big.

It's like people paying for Postman or whatever.

I don't know what your old school developer tool is.

It's like a small dollar amount per seat per month.

And you're using it to increase the productivity of someone who you're paying like $200,000 a year.

Maybe.

I mean, again, I think like thinking of it per developer is thinking of it through the productivity lens.

Like you're thinking of it in terms of like, how do I multiply a developer's output?

I think at some point you just get into the lens of like, what's this software worth to my business?

Yeah.

which is a lot like every company at this point to greater lesser extent is like a software company.

It's the biggest lever that they have.

And so it's going to be orders of magnitude more that companies are willing to pay for these types of tools.

Cause they're just, it's not, it's not a productivity tool.

In terms of whether we're seeing productivity gains, I think no one knows.

There's a bunch of studies that show not really.

Again, I would be a little more nuanced.

So if you are using lovable, then yeah, of course.