Zach Lowe

and as sexy as a hot take it might be to say they don't even need him to win the championship.

Yeah, there's a universe where they can win the title without him because they'd be favorites over someone coming out of the East and all that.

I just find it hard to believe that they can get through at least the last two playoff rounds without him at that level of competition.

Maybe they could, but I think their margin shrinks to a dangerous place.

Okay, any other thoughts on this series or can we switch gears and leave the Suns in the desert?

We can switch gears.

Orlando, Detroit.

Steve, if you like offense, you should probably watch a different series.

In the regular season, the worst offense in the NBA, the Brooklyn Nets averaged 108 points per 100 possessions.

Through two games in this slugfest, Detroit, 101 points per 100 possessions.

Orlando, 98 points per 100 possessions.

They are 14th and 16th in offensive rating among the playoff teams, with Phoenix sandwiched in between them.

They are 15th and 16th among 16 playoff teams in three-point percentage, so everybody is missing 15%.

everything.

But Detroit came out last night.

They played a much cleaner defensive game.

You could count the real mistakes on one hand after a, after what I call the frazzled performance in game one.

And they had some counters to Orlando's scheme of switching the Cade Duren go underneath and switch and try to take Duren out of the game.

Duren didn't have a, I thought Duren had another game.

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