Zack Wickham

And a lot of gay bars have actually been going out of business in smaller towns. But... They are the center of gay life because that's where the knowledge transfer on how to be gay or what it means to be or what has happened in the past. That's where you get that knowledge because you're not going to get it in school.

And a lot of gay bars have actually been going out of business in smaller towns. But... They are the center of gay life because that's where the knowledge transfer on how to be gay or what it means to be or what has happened in the past. That's where you get that knowledge because you're not going to get it in school.

Exactly. And again, it was like, that is what your chat GPT was. It's the old guy at the end of the bar that is going to tell you what happened in 1980 or 73 or whatever year, you know what I mean? It's like, that is how you learn these things. And, and I feel like that is kind of a disconnect now where I'm like kind of scared.

Exactly. And again, it was like, that is what your chat GPT was. It's the old guy at the end of the bar that is going to tell you what happened in 1980 or 73 or whatever year, you know what I mean? It's like, that is how you learn these things. And, and I feel like that is kind of a disconnect now where I'm like kind of scared.

I'm hoping that we can bridge that gap again to like the younger generation to make sure that they understand how important, um,

I'm hoping that we can bridge that gap again to like the younger generation to make sure that they understand how important, um,

And that happens all the time, you know? And it's definitely not easy coming out because, you know, it's the only time where you have to, where you could possibly be disowned from your family. You're probably, I mean, more than likely, you're not going to be disowned from your family for, you know, any other thing really except for that. Yeah. Right off the bat, you know?

And that happens all the time, you know? And it's definitely not easy coming out because, you know, it's the only time where you have to, where you could possibly be disowned from your family. You're probably, I mean, more than likely, you're not going to be disowned from your family for, you know, any other thing really except for that. Yeah. Right off the bat, you know?

struggling have struggled but overall we're moving in the right direction i feel like even when we take these steps back we're we'll we'll i i have some faith in america i have some faith in humanity that okay guys is it better right now or was it better a few years ago like come on come on

struggling have struggled but overall we're moving in the right direction i feel like even when we take these steps back we're we'll we'll i i have some faith in america i have some faith in humanity that okay guys is it better right now or was it better a few years ago like come on come on

There's an energy.

There's an energy.

It's definitely palpable.

It's definitely palpable.

I feel it in my palple.

I feel it in my palple.

Can I just... Let's walk down memory lane of... I remember... Let's not walk too far. Well, let's not walk too far. Actually, I don't want to go with a sad story, but the year after I moved here was the Pulse Club shooting. And I was just in Orlando that day and had just flown back from gay days in Orlando and landed here in L.A., I had just been to pulse to, uh, I can't remember.

Can I just... Let's walk down memory lane of... I remember... Let's not walk too far. Well, let's not walk too far. Actually, I don't want to go with a sad story, but the year after I moved here was the Pulse Club shooting. And I was just in Orlando that day and had just flown back from gay days in Orlando and landed here in L.A., I had just been to pulse to, uh, I can't remember.

Uh, what's the other, whatever, all the like bars. I had just been to gay days at Disney and like come back here. And then like that shooting happens. And then, and then I remember Brittany's working at sir. And I'm just like a wreck. And then I think you guys like, didn't know if you were going to film or not because it was like a little on, on like, nobody knew what was going on.

Uh, what's the other, whatever, all the like bars. I had just been to gay days at Disney and like come back here. And then like that shooting happens. And then, and then I remember Brittany's working at sir. And I'm just like a wreck. And then I think you guys like, didn't know if you were going to film or not because it was like a little on, on like, nobody knew what was going on.