Zershaaneh Qureshi

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80,000 Hours Podcast · #248 – Jasmine Sun on what the people building AI really believe · 21 Jul 2026 podcast

I wonder in this environment, like,

How much do you think, like how optimistic you are that safety-focused people can actually succeed at pushing forward what they want to push forward?

Let's move on now to talk about another group of people that you've been observing.

So you've spent a bunch of time with, I guess, a group of people that you would describe as AI populists.

Can you tell us more about who these people are, what their views and motivations are, and so on?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So these people right there, their hatred of AI is very deeply entrenched in their distrust of the people who are building it.

To the extent where it doesn't seem to matter to them how useful ChatGPT gets as a tool.

There's something fundamental about what's going on here that they feel inherently skeptical of.

Yeah, I think that's interesting because based on what we've heard so far about the attitudes of people who are building the technologies, I mean, as we've seen, they're quite varied.

But ultimately, we've got a group of people who are aware of the risks, aware that the things that they're building could cause a lot of at least short-term disruption, if not worse, longer-term harms.

And they're building it anyway.

They maybe have a sort of automate or be automated mindset and

Some group of them, maybe a small group, even has a belief like technology doesn't even need to serve humans.

With all of this kind of stuff in mind, I guess it's not wholly surprising to me that some large part of the public feels pretty distrustful of this group of people.

I'm wondering how much sympathy you have for these views overall.

Yeah.

Something else that we're seeing, right, well, we're already beginning to see these kinds of AI populist type attitudes beginning to escalate.

So recently there have been some attacks on Sam Altman's house and also on the house of, I think, a councilman who had just approved a data center project.

Obviously these things are extremely horrific.

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