Zershaaneh Qureshi
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first heard May 2026
last heard 17 Sep
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And then Goldman Sachs has predicted that 300 million jobs could be at risk globally.
Yeah, if these kinds of predictions are right, then it seems like maybe a lot of the jobs you mentioned in the book might stop existing pretty soon.
Do you think that their predictions are right?
Yeah, so I think here's what I'm not quite understanding properly with this.
So if I'm an employer and my company has just become a lot more productive, I could either choose to spend the same amount of money on wages and hiring as I already was and like achieve a lot more with it.
Or I could just cut back, spend a lot less, do a bunch of layoffs or something like that and be achieving the same amount as I was before.
And it seems like in both situations, I'm better off.
So why wouldn't I just do the second thing and do a bunch of layoffs instead?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
So it does seem like there are some reasons why when you've got partial automation making people more productive in the kind of near term, jobs could be, wages could be increasing or there could be more hiring.
at least in some areas.
But as AIs are able to automate more and more stuff, presumably at some point the balance starts shifting here, right?
Like in previous waves of automation, at some point there has been some kind of decline in wages once there's a certain threshold met of automation, right?
Yeah, just to make this a bit more concrete, I think the classic example of this is ATMs, right?
How did it look when it was ATMs?
Yeah, so your view is that, correct me if I'm wrong, that at some point we'll kind of hit this point with AI as well, where we meet whatever threshold it is beyond which we begin to see employment going down or wages going down.
Okay, yeah.
On a job by job basis, we're seeing this trend of like wages potentially increasing or hiring potentially increasing.
And then at some point that's sort of petering off and then there being a decline.
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