Zoë Grünewald

And electric vehicles is another classic example. Obviously, Musk is very much in favour of electric vehicles. This comes into contrast with a lot of thought in the Republican Party about net zero being this scourge and then the interest of the Rust Belt and all these things. At some point, they're going to clash.

And Elon Musk, as we can see, is a highly unpredictable character who seems to be extremely high on his own supply at the minute. And the question is, where do all these tech bros go? How do they fall in line when you get that division? You know, if Musk and Trump have a huge fallout, where does Zuckerberg go? What side of the fence would he like to sit on?

And Elon Musk, as we can see, is a highly unpredictable character who seems to be extremely high on his own supply at the minute. And the question is, where do all these tech bros go? How do they fall in line when you get that division? You know, if Musk and Trump have a huge fallout, where does Zuckerberg go? What side of the fence would he like to sit on?

And you can bet that if the American election turned out differently and Harris became president, they would totally flip. They would do a 180 and totally flip the other way. That's how self-interested they are.

And you can bet that if the American election turned out differently and Harris became president, they would totally flip. They would do a 180 and totally flip the other way. That's how self-interested they are.

As much as it feels ideological, and I'm sure there is a lot of ideology to the selfishness of it, I don't think they are driven in the same way Trump is by his... I think they just follow the money.

As much as it feels ideological, and I'm sure there is a lot of ideology to the selfishness of it, I don't think they are driven in the same way Trump is by his... I think they just follow the money.

This is so crazy to me. But I'm sure it's just another publicity stunt from Tate, isn't it? I mean, there's no actual chance that he thinks he's going to do anything significant politically. It's just another way for him to involve himself in the current argument of the right.

This is so crazy to me. But I'm sure it's just another publicity stunt from Tate, isn't it? I mean, there's no actual chance that he thinks he's going to do anything significant politically. It's just another way for him to involve himself in the current argument of the right.

Precisely. Apparently, he's going to introduce blockchain-based voting and a national Bitcoin reserve in the UK.

Precisely. Apparently, he's going to introduce blockchain-based voting and a national Bitcoin reserve in the UK.

Back again, are we? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No good news? No.

Back again, are we? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No good news? No.

Hello.

Hello.

Not so fresh from conference.

Not so fresh from conference.

How was it? It was corporate. I think there is a perception that Labour Party conference is one of the more fun conferences. And this year felt so actually overrun with business people, in my opinion. I mean, it was very crowded. All the fringe events were standing room only. There were lots of, you know, men in suits patrolling, which, you know, isn't unusual for a political conference.

How was it? It was corporate. I think there is a perception that Labour Party conference is one of the more fun conferences. And this year felt so actually overrun with business people, in my opinion. I mean, it was very crowded. All the fringe events were standing room only. There were lots of, you know, men in suits patrolling, which, you know, isn't unusual for a political conference.

But it felt particularly busy this year, I'd say. And perhaps not as kind of grassrootsy, lively, young as Labour Party conference might have once have been.