Zoë Grünewald
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There's those in Labour who think they just need to deliver. And then there's those in Labour who say, actually, this is all a symptom of long term decline. What we need are deep rooted constitutional changes. So voting reform, electoral reform, abolishing the House of Lords, talking about our relationship with the EU, you know, these much bigger things which Labour aren't.
There's those in Labour who think they just need to deliver. And then there's those in Labour who say, actually, this is all a symptom of long term decline. What we need are deep rooted constitutional changes. So voting reform, electoral reform, abolishing the House of Lords, talking about our relationship with the EU, you know, these much bigger things which Labour aren't.
quite frankly, going to commit to, at least not in their first term or probably even their second term. But there is some argument in Labour about what do we do? Do we just focus on delivery and ignore the noise? Do we actually start to get a grip on messaging above reform? Because reform are very good at diagnosing a problem, talking about discontents, very easy to do when you're in opposition.
quite frankly, going to commit to, at least not in their first term or probably even their second term. But there is some argument in Labour about what do we do? Do we just focus on delivery and ignore the noise? Do we actually start to get a grip on messaging above reform? Because reform are very good at diagnosing a problem, talking about discontents, very easy to do when you're in opposition.
Does Starmer need to take them head on, you know, and say, actually, this is what we're going to do. This is how it's going to improve the country. Or is actually all of this irrelevant if Labour aren't tackling the real deep rooted fundamental problems in this country? So we're going to see lots of that.
Does Starmer need to take them head on, you know, and say, actually, this is what we're going to do. This is how it's going to improve the country. Or is actually all of this irrelevant if Labour aren't tackling the real deep rooted fundamental problems in this country? So we're going to see lots of that.
I think ultimately, Morgan McSweeney, who basically is Kit Summers' chief of staff, runs the Labour Party, he's all about delivery. We'll probably see Labour trying to keep themselves away from the noise and just proceed with those measurable targets like NHS waiting lists.
I think ultimately, Morgan McSweeney, who basically is Kit Summers' chief of staff, runs the Labour Party, he's all about delivery. We'll probably see Labour trying to keep themselves away from the noise and just proceed with those measurable targets like NHS waiting lists.
I think it's very important. It's a very fair point. And I think it tells you a lot about how not just boring average men, but you're right, like repulsive men seem to get so far in politics.
I think it's very important. It's a very fair point. And I think it tells you a lot about how not just boring average men, but you're right, like repulsive men seem to get so far in politics.
I think Jenrick thinks he is doing that. Yeah. I think you're absolutely right. I think Kemmy Bain knocked his toast. There was a great quote in a piece I read about this where a Tory MP had basically said, I think the party needs to get the madness out of its system.
I think Jenrick thinks he is doing that. Yeah. I think you're absolutely right. I think Kemmy Bain knocked his toast. There was a great quote in a piece I read about this where a Tory MP had basically said, I think the party needs to get the madness out of its system.
You know, they need to try shifting to the right to see just how fundamentally it will not work because you can't out-Farage Farage. The last time the Tories suffered a similar loss was in 1997, and it took 13 years and four different leaders to return to power. Now, historical comparisons aren't always useful, but
You know, they need to try shifting to the right to see just how fundamentally it will not work because you can't out-Farage Farage. The last time the Tories suffered a similar loss was in 1997, and it took 13 years and four different leaders to return to power. Now, historical comparisons aren't always useful, but
It does take a long time to rebuild, especially when the Conservatives had such a trouncing and they have such a poor economic record. You know, the economy was the Tories' strength. They trashed that. So you have to really ask why anyone would return to the Conservatives. I think Badenoch will eventually be out. I don't think she'll lead the Conservatives into the next election.
It does take a long time to rebuild, especially when the Conservatives had such a trouncing and they have such a poor economic record. You know, the economy was the Tories' strength. They trashed that. So you have to really ask why anyone would return to the Conservatives. I think Badenoch will eventually be out. I don't think she'll lead the Conservatives into the next election.
I think the Conservative Party would have a better chance with James Cleverley, and I think that was the fear in Labour circles, was actually he would win the leadership election and they would have a much tighter race. The idea that Badenoch, who is just known for being divisive, you know, she could start a fight in an empty room, is the person to unite the Conservative Party...
I think the Conservative Party would have a better chance with James Cleverley, and I think that was the fear in Labour circles, was actually he would win the leadership election and they would have a much tighter race. The idea that Badenoch, who is just known for being divisive, you know, she could start a fight in an empty room, is the person to unite the Conservative Party...
And bring the public back. It's just, I don't know what the party was thinking. But then again, they weren't really thinking that because out of 121 Tory MPs, only 42 backed her. You know, that wasn't a majority. So I don't think she'll last. I don't know why she hasn't suggested any substantial policy yet. I think that's a mistake because she's letting Nigel Farage outflank her on the right.
And bring the public back. It's just, I don't know what the party was thinking. But then again, they weren't really thinking that because out of 121 Tory MPs, only 42 backed her. You know, that wasn't a majority. So I don't think she'll last. I don't know why she hasn't suggested any substantial policy yet. I think that's a mistake because she's letting Nigel Farage outflank her on the right.