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Zoë Grünewald

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Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

And they're not even acknowledging the fact that they lost a lot of voters to the Lib Dems. You know, there's still a huge caucus of voters who left the Tories to go to the Lib Dems and Labour because they missed the kind of centre right, sort of more moderate conservatism that was basically purged from the party during the Brexit years.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

And they're not even acknowledging the fact that they lost a lot of voters to the Lib Dems. You know, there's still a huge caucus of voters who left the Tories to go to the Lib Dems and Labour because they missed the kind of centre right, sort of more moderate conservatism that was basically purged from the party during the Brexit years.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

So I don't think she's going to take them to the next election. But I don't know how many leaders they're going to have until they see something like electoral victory again.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

So I don't think she's going to take them to the next election. But I don't know how many leaders they're going to have until they see something like electoral victory again.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

No. No. Because the reform party is Nigel Farage. I mean, you only have to see how they massively excelled in sort of the polls and popularity and profile after they managed to get Nigel Farage to come and actually stand for them. I mean, who do you have when you take Farage out? Richard Tice? I mean, you know, who cares about him? And... Who else is there?

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

No. No. Because the reform party is Nigel Farage. I mean, you only have to see how they massively excelled in sort of the polls and popularity and profile after they managed to get Nigel Farage to come and actually stand for them. I mean, who do you have when you take Farage out? Richard Tice? I mean, you know, who cares about him? And... Who else is there?

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

Rupert Lowe's getting a lot of attention. He's trying though, isn't he? He's been tweeting a lot of Musk talking points. But again, I think, you know, Nigel Farage is such a divisive personality. A lot of reform voters love him. They don't love him in the same way they like Richard Tice.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

Rupert Lowe's getting a lot of attention. He's trying though, isn't he? He's been tweeting a lot of Musk talking points. But again, I think, you know, Nigel Farage is such a divisive personality. A lot of reform voters love him. They don't love him in the same way they like Richard Tice.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

And I think a lot of people just listen to Farage or just care about seeing Farage rather than actually taking in the substance of what he's saying. That's why reforms policies haven't had the scrutiny that they should have, because it is just about Farage. Once you take them away, they just become a protest party with, you know, completely incongruent policy positions.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

And I think a lot of people just listen to Farage or just care about seeing Farage rather than actually taking in the substance of what he's saying. That's why reforms policies haven't had the scrutiny that they should have, because it is just about Farage. Once you take them away, they just become a protest party with, you know, completely incongruent policy positions.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

I actually think Musk and Farage might make up. I think there might be some thawing of relations. I mean, Nigel Farage apparently said that Musk has already retweeted him twice. So who knows? Maybe they'll make up, which just has such a touch of the sort of teenage... crush about it, doesn't it? It's so pathetic.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

I actually think Musk and Farage might make up. I think there might be some thawing of relations. I mean, Nigel Farage apparently said that Musk has already retweeted him twice. So who knows? Maybe they'll make up, which just has such a touch of the sort of teenage... crush about it, doesn't it? It's so pathetic.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

But I think what it does tell us is this whole unholy trinity of right-wing men is fractious and can chop and change at any minute.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

But I think what it does tell us is this whole unholy trinity of right-wing men is fractious and can chop and change at any minute.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

And that's the problem, you know, and I think that's where Labour are really hoping if they just plough ahead and continue with their boring, sensible, you know, policymaking, that the public will get bored of the psychodrama and hopefully see some change.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

And that's the problem, you know, and I think that's where Labour are really hoping if they just plough ahead and continue with their boring, sensible, you know, policymaking, that the public will get bored of the psychodrama and hopefully see some change.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

I'm not sure. I think there's still a sense that reform will potentially damage Labour in some working class areas. I think the Tories are preparing themselves for another trancing. And I think Kemi Badenoch will be very worried because once, you know, the party has a taste for regicide, it likes removing its leaders.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

I'm not sure. I think there's still a sense that reform will potentially damage Labour in some working class areas. I think the Tories are preparing themselves for another trancing. And I think Kemi Badenoch will be very worried because once, you know, the party has a taste for regicide, it likes removing its leaders.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

Once they see a poor set of election results, especially in comparison to reform, I think they might get nervous. So she'll have her work cut out for her. But I do think it will be interesting because reform is talking a really big game at the minute. They're talking about their membership kind of spiraling. But there isn't necessarily a link between membership and doing well electorally. Yeah.

Pod Save the UK
Billionaire BS: How can Britain Stop Musk’s Disinformation?

Once they see a poor set of election results, especially in comparison to reform, I think they might get nervous. So she'll have her work cut out for her. But I do think it will be interesting because reform is talking a really big game at the minute. They're talking about their membership kind of spiraling. But there isn't necessarily a link between membership and doing well electorally. Yeah.