Zoë Grünewald
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I was thinking about, you know, this relationship between managing Xi Jinping and Donald Trump, and it kind of reminded me a bit of wedding planning.
In that you kind of have to make everybody, you know, especially in a blended family, right?
You kind of have to make everyone feel included.
You have to make them feel valued.
But every seating plan could be an insult.
Every speech could be, you know, freighted with meaning.
But rather than getting like a passive aggressive text or a frosty speech, you know, you could get
the invasion of Scotland.
It is pretty big stakes on either side.
So that tightrope is very, very difficult anyway, but especially when Donald Trump is putting as much pressure as he can on other countries now to distance themselves from China.
It's not great.
You know, it's going to be like some investment, but not too much involvement in our infrastructure.
You know, we're going to work closely with you, but not so closely that we're going to piss anyone off.
It's Goldilocks.
It's Goldilocks.
I think if he can come back with some investment and no ire from Donald Trump, he'll chalk that up as a win.
But what can he actually do?
I think that's true.
I mean, we are deeply economically entangled with China already.
Our supply chains, you know, our clean energy technologies, our consumer goods.