Zoe Ball

If you're going to a festival over the summer, chances are they might be there.

So look at the line-up and see if Pigeon are there.

Get yourself in the tent, get down the front.

But thank you, Jo, for, honestly, you really... When I hear sessions like that on your show, I'm like...

damn it, this woman's so good at what she does.

And you find such gems and you enlighten our lives with your love of music and these fantastic musicians that you find.

And what great energy.

So yeah, check out Pigeon.

And what's the name of the album again?

Outer National.

Obviously, that's how he was saying it.

That's how Fully was saying it.

He comes from Africa.

He was, yeah, he was talking a lot about his life and living on a war camp when he was very, very young.

And the reason that they're called pigeon is because pigeons are quite sacred in Africa and they were very important.

And so he talks about the importance of pigeons because I hate pigeons.

I don't know about you.

I don't mind them.

Really?

Oh no, they give me the heebie-jeebies.