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Zoe Schiffer

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Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

On Monday, we heard that the Trump administration announced what on its face seems like a pretty big about-face in its approach to AI regulation.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

The New York Times initially reported that there is an executive order being considered, just at that stage right now, that would create a group of tech executives and government officials who would essentially review AI models before they are released to the public.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

At the time that this was reported, it wasn't totally clear, at least to me, whether they would just get access to the models and be able to look at them and evaluate them or whether they would be able to say whether a model could be released or not.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

But it does seem like a pretty significant reversal of the very loose and pointed lack of regulation that the Trump administration has had until now toward the AI industry.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

You know, it's interesting because it's happening like right as a bunch of these companies, Google, Microsoft, XAI, Anthropic, OpenAI, already said that they would give the government early access to their models.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

And so, I mean, I think it's quite interesting, particularly when we think back to J.D.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

Vance not that long ago telling a group of regulators in Europe that the administration was going to take a very different approach to the Biden administration in terms of regulating this technology and really trying to, frankly, not regulate it.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

So even the possibility that this could change, I think, is worth paying a lot of attention to.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

But this is my question for you, Leah.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

Like, when we're talking about who is going to be part of this oversight committee or who is even kind of drafting this, you know, supposed regulation or executive order, like, David Sachs is no longer in the mix, at least in the kind of official way that he was.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

My read was that it was like Michael Kratzios and Susie Wiles who were now kind of managing his former portfolio.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

I'm like,

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

Sorry, I don't want to be rude, but I'm like, you're telling me Susie Wiles is the person deciding whether mythos is too dangerous to release to the public?

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

Like, come on.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

I hear your take, and I want a yes and.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

Yes and no.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

Yes and no is what I do with that.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

But, like, I mean, it does, like, let's think back to when they said not too long ago in an executive order, correct me if I'm wrong, that they were going to, like, de-woke AI.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

And we should look back at that.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?; Worker Ousted by DOGE Runs for Office

Did anything come from it?