Zoe Schiffer

So the way that CEO Alex Karp talks about this company as this like

extended arm of the US government isn't necessarily new.

I think that it's just like hitting this very specific point for critics and critics internally as well that are going, wait a second, that's not the country that I actually signed up on.

You know, especially this year, ICE and DHS surveillance, its support of military actions in Iran.

The company has doubled down on all of these positions.

We actually have a story coming tomorrow from politics reporter McKenna Kelly about how internally that's not being received super well either.

And then you have Alex Karp who kind of doesn't really appear to care.

And he's like, no, no, no, we're on track.

We're going to keep going here.

Yeah.

And it's philosophical ramblings that are packaged in what appeared to be like an authoritarian, ultra-nationalist like game plan here, which is...

No surprise why people call it fascist.

Yeah, it doesn't hit, and maybe that's part of it, Ryan, and this is a bad take, so this is my episode of bad takes, I suppose.

Give me an authoritarian who really, really believes this stuff and isn't doing it to line their pockets.

I'm looking at this, and Palantir is making money hand over fist right now.

So of course they're just going to repeat anything that keeps them in the good graces with the administration.

You're watching the administration be at war with companies that even like remotely speak out, whether that's Anthropic or whomever.

And just like the idea of that being in the air.

No, Palantir is like this institution of choice right now.

And we've watched that happen since like week one of the Trump administration.