Zohran Mamdani (guest)

And the cutting of that funding was one that then pushed her out of the apartment that she was able to rent.

This is the same governor who gave Elon Musk $959 million in tax credits.

In New York.

In New York.

I say these things because sometimes it's tempting to think that all that is wrong in this moment is from Donald Trump.

But it's important that the very same people that we have villainized and thought of solely through the prism of Trump existed prior to him.

And in fact, were some of the very people that were uplifted by these kinds of leaders in the Democratic Party.

If you want to understand why so many have come to associate politics with a extended play of diminishing faith and trust, then we also have to understand who the politicians have been that have been leading these very parties and that many of these issues are not exclusive to the Republican Party.

They are, in fact, endemic within our own party.

And if we want to truly move beyond Donald Trump, we also have to understand the systems that allowed for the flourishing of someone like Donald Trump and that many of those systems and styles of politics are also within our own party.

And Andrew Cuomo being an example of the fusion of these things.

So just to distill this critique.

I've heard about these pauses.

It's interesting.

Well, you think.

It's interesting to hear you say the word the other side.

Part of my point is that Andrew Cuomo created the other side in Albany.

He took what would have otherwise been a democratic trifecta of democratic control of the governor's office, the assembly, and the state senate, and ensured that there was a Republican minority in the senate that was in power.

Exactly.

Exactly.