Zoë Grünewald
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first heard Sep 2024
last heard 9 Jul
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And electric vehicles is another classic example. Obviously, Musk is very much in favour of electric vehicles. This comes into contrast with a lot of thought in the Republican Party about net zero being this scourge and then the interest of the Rust Belt and all these things. At some point, they're going to clash.
And Elon Musk, as we can see, is a highly unpredictable character who seems to be extremely high on his own supply at the minute. And the question is, where do all these tech bros go? How do they fall in line when you get that division? You know, if Musk and Trump have a huge fallout, where does Zuckerberg go? What side of the fence would he like to sit on?
And you can bet that if the American election turned out differently and Harris became president, they would totally flip. They would do a 180 and totally flip the other way. That's how self-interested they are.
As much as it feels ideological, and I'm sure there is a lot of ideology to the selfishness of it, I don't think they are driven in the same way Trump is by his... I think they just follow the money.
This is so crazy to me. But I'm sure it's just another publicity stunt from Tate, isn't it? I mean, there's no actual chance that he thinks he's going to do anything significant politically. It's just another way for him to involve himself in the current argument of the right.
Precisely. Apparently, he's going to introduce blockchain-based voting and a national Bitcoin reserve in the UK.
Back again, are we? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No good news? No.
Hello.
Not so fresh from conference.
How was it? It was corporate. I think there is a perception that Labour Party conference is one of the more fun conferences. And this year felt so actually overrun with business people, in my opinion. I mean, it was very crowded. All the fringe events were standing room only. There were lots of, you know, men in suits patrolling, which, you know, isn't unusual for a political conference.
But it felt particularly busy this year, I'd say. And perhaps not as kind of grassrootsy, lively, young as Labour Party conference might have once have been.
I would say they were definitely making a concerted effort to be more hopeful, a bit more jolly, a bit less gloomy. You know, I wasn't quite sure about the slogan, change begins, because as you say, that speech in the Rose Garden where it was like, things are going to get pretty bad.
Yeah, and it's like, that's beginning right now. It's like, oh no, more terrible things. But I mean, you could really tell they were trying to make an effort to inject a little bit of that sort of 1997 vibe hopeful, you know, vibe to conference.
And that was really shown, I think, in Rachel Reeves' speech where she had this big kind of smile plastered on her face, which I actually found in moments a little bit creepy. But I think with Starmer's speech, it started off A little bit slow, a little bit disparate. You know, he struggles to tell a story, I think. It sometimes feels like he's kind of moving all over the place.
But as he went on, he warmed up. And there were moments where I think he spoke with quite a lot of passion.
Not really. I think he is... practical, pragmatic, and sort of like a boring public service. It's pretty dull, but that's kind of part of his appeal. The problem is when you are trying to keep the country with you for a decade, that's what they want, a decade of national renewal, you do have to tell a bit of a story and you do have to inspire them and excite them.
And I think Labour's depending a lot on delivery. They just want to be able to say in five years' time when the public go back to vote, look at all these things we've achieved.
That's great. But is it enough? You know, you look at the US, you look at Biden, Biden actually delivered quite a lot, but he's still, you know, still in trouble. So it's not just delivery. It's also a time where, you know, the country doesn't trust politicians and is quite divided on certain issues.
I think you need to offer a little bit more than just, look, there are, you know, cranes in the sky and planning reform and, you know, You know, it has to be a little bit more, I think, for the average person to feel that their changes are materially different.
it was almost as if he was trying to reframe the immigration debate as a kind of left-wing argument against free markets. So, you know, he made this argument that net migration is too high and that, you know, he was saying it's a legitimate thing for people to think. And it was funny, he kind of pointed to
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