Zvi Mowshowitz
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10,155 appearances
8 recordings
1 series
first heard Nov 2024
last heard 19 Sep
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But the reason why I have spent
like the better part of three years now on this problem because I am terrified of what's gonna happen when we get there.
It wasn't because of some incremental thing that like could have happened already along the way.
I think that you're right that
We have three.
Labs approximately um two to four that matter a lot.
We have one to two governments.
maybe one to three that matter like quite a lot.
We have other players that matter because they're hyperscalers and like can gate things or otherwise like control choke points in the production line.
But yeah, no, you can you can imagine a tabletop exercise much more so than before and you can also sort of see the end.
uh to a larger extent than before, and we're starting to see sort of
Our hypotheticals make contact with reality and we're seeing what reality really looks like and what these people do in practice.
But also all his
actors then become yeah, the the their individual human components and how they operate internally starts to become really important.
And, you know, how did this go?
Well, partly they were dealing with commerce.
If they'd been dealing with the NSA, it would be very different.
If they were dealing with Casey, it would be very different.
If they were dealing with the White the the top of the White House and like Wallace and Trump directly, that would be very different.
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