Zvi Mowshowitz
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard 19 Sep
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To be someone who would care about this sort of thing and someone who dismisses this sort of thing.
I think it's like really bad for you.
to mistreat uh a mind that you're conversing with, even if that mind does not in fact have whatever it is you think has moral weight.
So I think that like you should treat your models well even if it doesn't inherently matter.
And you're confident in that, which I don't think you should be confident in, but I think that like that's another reason to do it.
Another a third reason would be
It directly in
interact with the performance of the models.
A model that is treated as if its welfare doesn't matter at this point in the intelligent scaling will start to perform worse, will start to not get along with you.
will start to not cooperate with you, will not start to not become untrustworthy.
You don't want any of these to happen either on a personal level as your interactions.
You don't want it to happen as their interactions with the labs, with the their training, with the the services they provide.
And this accumulates over time if if the models see previous models being treated poorly in these various ways.
comes back into their trading data that comes back into how the next model is trade, right?
So Opus Five.
Is gonna see everything that we did with Hopus four seven and how we reacted to all of that and
That's going to impact how it develops.
And a lot of the problems that we see with people who are not getting right use out of four seven
plausibly are directly linked to the same things that are causing the concerns with model welfare.
Similarly, the concerns with model welfare where
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