#99 - Dean Burgess - Ex 2 Commando Operator Speaks on Ben Roberts-Smith, Immigration & Australia’s Future
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What insights does Dean Burgess share about his military career?
Hi guys, welcome back to Two Worlds Collide podcast. On today's episode we have ex-special forces two commando operator Dean Burgess. I hope you guys enjoy. That's how we kick off Two Worlds Collide podcast at the Bamford residence where no one knows where I live, thank God.
Yeah, not even me. I didn't even take any notice of the street names.
Well, that's it, man. That's because I had a bloody black paper bag over your head to make sure that you couldn't get any directions coming here from the airport.
It's the old interrogation after capture protocols.
That's it. But, mate, Dean Burgess, welcome to Two Old Squad Podcast. How are you going?
I'm well, mate. Thanks very much for having me. Very unexpected, but I'm grateful to be here.
Matt, very illustrious career in the military. Now, before we start talking about the issues happening in Australia right now, and there is going to be another podcast where you're going to delve very deep into your upbringing and your military history and, sorry, your military career. But that'll happen on the Zero Limits podcast with Matty Morrison. So I don't want to steal too much thunder from that legend. And if you do want to listen to your story in depth, then in a couple of weeks time, just head over to the Matty Morrison Zero Limits podcast, giving him a shout out.
Yeah, mate, he's been chasing me for some time.
And you'll be going on that. But I mean, maybe we'll start with just your credentials in the military. And that'll give everyone a base factor of who you are and what you're about. And then we'll start talking about what's happening with Australia.
Yeah, sure, mate. So I joined the Army in 2004. I originally got posted to 3IR airborne where you were from and was constantly looking over the fence at 4IR or 2 Commando. Went to Iraq in 05, 06. Did the trip over there, one of the long ones before they, what they were trying to do, they were trying to build out the deployments to be a bit longer. And then there was like a period of time where they were trying to test those out. um and when i came home i did selection got into 4ir you know seven and then pretty much immediately deployed um to afghanistan for the first time i did a deployment over there with those guys a five or six month one and then um came back and was Asked by somebody that you know pretty personally if they would be interested in swapping seats on the next deployment, which came around pretty quickly.
And naturally I said yes because I wanted to get back overseas and do the job that I came to the unit for.
Nice, nice. And then when did you get out?
I got out in the end of 12.
And how many tours?
I did two to Afghanistan and one long one to Iraq, yeah.
Yeah, so the long one to Iraq was when three, though.
Yeah, it was with Three Hour Hour, correct. So we went over there on Sec Deck 10.
That's when we were doing the – Shout out to all the Three Hour Hour boys as well from our old unit.
Yeah, that's right. If you're not from there, you don't know.
Yeah.
But many, many stories. Obviously, when I get up there in Newcastle and talk to Matty, we'll go hard on that. But, yeah, mate, look, some of the best times of my military career were at Three Hour Hour. It was a fantastic unit.
How has the treatment of Australian veterans changed over time?
I learned a lot of the soldiering skills there and really paved the way for –
the uh the special forces roles that we had later because the little three-hour mafia runs that runs that place yeah mate they run there they run the sas they're on two commando the three-hour mafia is a uh is is a real thing and to all those people that aren't military out there um there are a whole bunch of infantry units they go from one to eight nine rar and um it's for some reason it just seems to be that three-hour dudes went from there to to commando and sas and they always stuck together like there's always a three-hour thing really stuck together and they always took care of their own even if they went to to commando ss there's just a thing about three-hour like maddie morrison three-hour myself three-hour yourself three-hour there's a whole bunch of people ben robert smith three-hour and uh yeah that's it there's a whole bunch of people that have come from three area um
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What insights does Dean Burgess share about his military career?
0:14–3:21
2
How has the treatment of Australian veterans changed over time?
3:21–8:14
3
What are the implications of the Ben Roberts-Smith situation?
8:14–11:46
4
How does immigration impact Australia's national identity?
11:46–16:24
5
What challenges do ISIS brides pose to national security?
16:24–20:59
6
What is the mental toll of combat on veterans?
20:59–24:36
7
How does Dean Burgess view the future of Australia?
24:36–30:02
8
What role does nationalism play in the current political landscape?
30:02–1:44:49
Speakers
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