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Bad Rap: USA v. Sean Combs

30 Apr 2025

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0.469 - 20.405 Deborah Roberts

It's Deborah Roberts here to bring you another weekly episode of Bad Rap, The Case Against Diddy. Remember, you can catch new episodes a day early if you follow Bad Rap, The Case Against Diddy on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or wherever you listen to podcasts. And now, here's our next episode.

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21.706 - 41.743 Deborah Roberts

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45.703 - 58.981 Brian Buckmeyer

The first time I saw Sean Combs enter court after he was charged, I remember doing a little bit of a double take. Sean Combs sitting right there. I mean, he looked right at me.

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That's ABC News chief investigative correspondent Aaron Katursky. Aaron's been covering the courts in New York and other places for more than 25 years. He's reported on the trials of lots of high-profile people, including defendants like Diddy, who were charged with sex crimes. People like Harvey Weinstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

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80.874 - 98.617 Brian Buckmeyer

We have some access in some of the hearings of sitting in the jury box. So you're really just a railing away from the defendant in some cases. And right after his arrest, I didn't think he looked great.

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Aaron says Diddy looked stunned, like he was a little surprised at where he found himself. Cameras aren't typically allowed inside federal courtrooms, so the only way to see what's gone on at Diddy's hearings has been to go in person. Aaron's gone to nearly every hearing in Diddy's federal criminal case so far.

119.341 - 135.624 Brian Buckmeyer

I was there in the courtroom today, David, as Sean Combs entered in a black T-shirt, gray sweatpants and sneakers. Several of his children and his sister were there watching as he pleaded not guilty. And then they saw him led out by the marshals. Then I remember a different hearing. He walked in. He looked like he had lost weight.

135.744 - 155.693 Brian Buckmeyer

He looked like he was in a jovial mood, smiling at people in the courtroom. He clearly enjoys when his family comes to court. It is noticeable. For a while, his attorneys were pointing out who was who in the courtroom, so the judge had a sense of who was in the room, and the judge actually welcomed his family to court, which I had never really heard before.

156.474 - 166.861 Brian Buckmeyer

How he's going to be when he's on trial, there's no telling, because what's coming is going to be fairly graphic and potentially damning.

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