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Bad Blood

Thu, 08 May 2025

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Nancy Seaman was an award-winning teacher living in a wealthy suburb in Michigan. In 2004, she stabbed her husband, Bob, to death with a hatchet. At trial, Nancy admitted she killed Bob, but claimed it was self-defense and that Bob had been mentally and physically abusing her for years. The couple's two sons were divided on what to believe. “48 Hours" Correspondent Maureen Maher reports. This classic "48 Hours" episode last aired on 11/3/2007. Watch all-new episodes of “48 Hours” on Saturdays, and stream on demand on Paramount+. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: Who was Nancy Seaman and what led to the tragic event?

46.899 - 60.991 Jeff Seaman

You're talking about people that lived in a gated community in one of the wealthiest suburbs in Metro Detroit. We lived in a beautiful house, had a boat, a plane. Life is too short and life is too good to fight over stupid things.

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62.466 - 69.269 Greg Seaman

Certain pictures, you'd be able to get everybody smiling, get an impression that we were a happy family. You put on a happy face sometimes.

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70.249 - 85.356 Jeff Seaman

They would yell at each other, you know, and argue with each other. I didn't think it was that out of character for two married people to yell at each other. You really saw his temper start to get worse and worse, and then the fights were worse. My dad could say things that would make you madder than you would ever believe.

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86.275 - 92.676 Greg Seaman

Him being such a physical guy, there's just no doubt in my mind that it led to a kill or be killed situation.

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94.077 - 99.898 Nancy Seaman

And I heard his footsteps coming toward me. He grabbed me. Bob liked to grab and squeeze.

99.918 - 100.938 Greg Seaman

I thought he just lost it.

101.058 - 109.32 Nancy Seaman

You no good bitch. I don't love you anymore. I hate you. I've wasted my life with you. Why can't you just die?

109.34 - 110.28 Jeff Seaman

I think she snapped.

111.892 - 116.095 Nancy Seaman

I feel the handle of the hatchet. I picked it up and I swung it.

Chapter 2: What were the dynamics within the Seaman family?

474.636 - 486.94 Nancy Seaman

I knew that if I talked about that way, it would escalate the abuse. It would escalate his anger and his rage. And I knew not to do that because if I did that, it made the situation worse.

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487.82 - 505.238 Maureen Maher

Once, Nancy did call the police when Bob allegedly struck her, but no charges were filed. Bob would never forgive or forget. As the boys grew up, Nancy wanted them to love and admire Bob. Both kids became engineers, just like their father.

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505.398 - 511.164 Greg Seaman

I pretty much modeled my life after my dad and his choice of profession, his degree in college.

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512.005 - 531.236 Maureen Maher

For the first 20 years, Nancy says the physical abuse was sporadic, maybe one or two incidents a year. But in 1995, there was a new strain on the marriage. Bob lost his high-paying job just as Nancy was about to launch her own career as an award-winning elementary school teacher.

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531.716 - 543.726 Jeff Seaman

It all started to spiral out of control when my dad stopped working and my mom started working and my dad started to lose some of his identity and my mom started to feel some resentment because now she was the major breadwinner and he wasn't.

545.227 - 557.518 Maureen Maher

Meanwhile, Bob decided he would pour his heart into something that had always made him happy, baseball. He opened a batting cage for kids called the Upper Deck. Was your mom happy about the batting cage business?

558.35 - 564.075 Jeff Seaman

she viewed it as another wedge that was between them. That now he had his own activities he wanted to do, separate from her.

565.276 - 571.6 Maureen Maher

Nancy felt the real wedge between them was a happier family Bob met through the business, the Dumbletons.

571.861 - 576.284 Greg Seaman

It was almost like my dad assumed this father role with their family.

Chapter 3: How did Nancy Seaman's marriage deteriorate over the years?

2603.553 - 2615.161 Maggie Freeling

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2615.662 - 2618.604 Unidentified Speaker 2

There's got to be something at the heart of that evidence that they've got.

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2618.764 - 2620.265 Maggie Freeling

It's got to be DNA. Yeah.

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2621.065 - 2621.806 Lindsey Graham

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2622.086 - 2623.127 Maggie Freeling

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2623.507 - 2625.088 Lindsey Graham

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2625.528 - 2630.252 Maggie Freeling

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