Senator Stefanovic? Hannah Ferguson’s wild One Nation prediction
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
I'm Daniel James, and you're listening to 7am.
What did Pauline Hanson say at the National Press Club?
Pauline Hanson went to the National Press Club with the party polling like a threat to the old order. Then she had to explain what the party was actually for. Since her appearance, One Nation's federal support has slipped. The speech, with all its talk of monoculture and its familiar targets, migration, the ABC, renewables, gave voters a clearer look at the movement behind the momentum. But the story doesn't end there. In Victoria, where the state election is now months away, One Nation is polling better than the Labor government. And now, Hanson's message is being carried by a loud cast of celebrity sympathisers. Today, founder and CEO of Chegg Media, Hannah Ferguson, with a bold prediction on how one of those celebrity sympathisers could join Pauline Hanson's ranks.
And what happens when One Nation is no longer just a protest vote. It's Saturday, July 4. Hannah, good to see you again. The first major polls since Pauline Hanson's press club speech show One Nation slipping. What do you put that down to? Was it the monocultural line, the comments on workplace rights or parental leave, or just that when put under scrutiny, her whole platform starts to look a little bit shaky?
Well, yeah, I think it's a combination of those things. I think that this is really one of the first times at the National Press Club that Pauline Hanson has been allowed and invited to speak without kind of that 15-second soundbite moment that she craves and that she thrives in, this sort of grievance politician kind of space where she can walk away from a journalist, sort of trash them and then kind of get out of the room without actually having to offer tangible policy solutions.
Why has One Nation's federal support declined since Hanson's speech?
In saying that, I think that her Press Club speech landed well with her existing base. I think that the Pauline Hanson stronghold is as strong as ever. I do think that people who are maybe One Nation curious were turned off by that speech. And actually, I think it might be more Gina Reinhart's comments at the National Bush Summit later that same week that turned more people off Pauline than Pauline might have realised too.
We need an orange bulldozer. Let's hear the noise.
Yeah, let's talk about those comments. How much do you think the closeness to Gina Reinhart matters in this moment?
I think it matters a lot. I think that, you know, Gina Reinhart is the clear communication that Pauline Hanson is not an outsider to the system that is fighting for the Aussie battler. To be backed by Gina Reinhart and have Gina Reinhart publicly coming forward and saying on stage in Townsville that she wants to sort of have Israel move in and build war drones.
For the Israelis and transport here, for their skilled people, immediate families and equipment, and encourage the Israelis to develop and build a their advanced war drones.
To give islands off Queensland's coast to Elon Musk for free to use for SpaceX.
Where there aren't high-end tourist facilities offered to Elon.
How is One Nation performing in the upcoming Victorian state election?
I think you all know that name, don't you? At no cost. for his SpaceX satellite construction and launches.
These are not sort of small moments. These are clear threats that Pauline Hanson is a representation figurehead of Gina Reinhart, which she is her biggest backer. So I think we cannot take lightly the impact that that will have on Pauline's growth and continued survival and popularity in Australian politics. And I think that the more we let Gina speak, the more that becomes clear to the Australian population too.
So do you see this latest polling as a bit of a wobble or a potential warning about One Nation's ceiling, or is it too early to tell?
I think it's too early to tell, but I think it's a really important reminder that we are a long way from a federal election right now. And people keep saying May 2028, but it could be as early as September next year. That's still more than 12 months. And we know that the Australian political landscape changes week to week.
What predictions does Hannah Ferguson make about celebrity sympathisers and One Nation?
And it also feels very much like Pauline Hanson's bubble and success is largely, I feel, driven by this obsession with weekly polling and this sort of exploration of every 1.2 point move that's occurring.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–0:08
2
What did Pauline Hanson say at the National Press Club?
0:08–1:47
3
Why has One Nation's federal support declined since Hanson's speech?
1:47–3:03
4
How is One Nation performing in the upcoming Victorian state election?
3:03–3:56
5
What predictions does Hannah Ferguson make about celebrity sympathisers and One Nation?
3:56–11:13
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What impact do Gina Reinhart's comments have on Pauline Hanson?
11:13–17:21
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