AI Is Changing What Investors Look For in Startups - With Jim Ferry

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How is AI lowering barriers for startup formation and product‑market fit?

Jim Ferry 0:00
But there's this thing in the back of my head where Anthropic or Cloud could release an update tomorrow and kill that business because they're going to offer it for free. That's
Dietmar Fischer 0:08
really
Jim Ferry 0:08
hard to invest behind. This is a people business at the end of the day. The way that we work, we tend to now do all of our outreach on LinkedIn where it used to be email. And when I was in the job, I used to call people and people would pick up the phone. That doesn't happen anymore. So that's dead. Email is dying because it's getting spammed. At some point, LinkedIn will be more spam. So we've made a conscious effort as an organization to we've always been doing it, but we put some structure behind it. You're never going to replicate that in this industry. You're always going to need a human. I don't think for the most part that's going to change. However, I think companies are going to be able to do a lot more with a lot less people.
Jim Ferry 0:47
Like the line that we're hearing a lot from our portfolio companies is they need to slow down to speed up. And that means slow down, you know, look at the current systems. What can we automate? And that may take a month or two to set up the right processes and systems, data infrastructure. But over time, it's going to let them run a lot faster.
Dietmar Fischer 1:09
Yeah, we have Jim Ferry from Volition Capital today. And we talk a lot about capital that goes into startup, growth, equity, venture capital. And what's different in the startup world just right now, what startups do that big firms don't do and how big firms can actually learn from the startups. yeah welcome to another episode of the beginner's guide to ai it's Dietmar from Argo Berlin at the microphone don't forget to follow the podcast on beginnersguide.nl there you find the newsletter and there you can subscribe to get every episode in your mailbox also go to ai for the 99 my other podcast where i publish once or twice a month an episode For the small companies, that helps you use AI to be more successful.
Dietmar Fischer 1:57
But now, without further ado, let's give the microphone to Jim.
Dietmar Fischer 2:12
Yeah, we have Jim Ferry today. And before everything else, welcome to the podcast, Jim.
Jim Ferry 2:17
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Dietmar Fischer 2:19
Yeah, so you are from the tech area, investment and everything, but we talk about AI especially, and I think this is the thing that hit the whole venture capital scene and so totally. What do you think? What is great for you about AI, about AI startups? What's the juice there?
Jim Ferry 2:41
Yeah, it's been exciting. So I'm a partner at a growth equity fund called Volition Capital. We tend to be series A, series B investors in businesses with 5 million plus revenue that found product market fit. And what's interesting is if you rewind in a pre-AI world, uh, for the most part, you kind of had to have like 30 employees to get to 5 million run rate. You had a certain number of engineers, certain people in the OPEC, certain amount of sales. And, uh, that game has obviously completely flipped on its head. And I think you hear about the first 2 billion, uh, two person billion dollar company or something that just sold. And, um, you know, for me, where we invest that volition, uh, you know, these businesses tend to be bootstrapped or not take on a huge amount of capital, um, prior to our involvement.
Jim Ferry 3:24
And, um, Our total addressable market size, I think, has expanded because coding and engineering is no longer a barrier to entry, which means there's more startups that are kind of reaching this scale and product market fit prior to raising capital. So it's been a boom for us, and I view it as a huge opportunity from an investment perspective.
Dietmar Fischer 3:47
I was long ago, I was working in a startup with startups. And so I knew a little bit, but things obviously changed now massively. And in what you say, actually, I remember those times it was kind of hard for an investment guy to see what you really did in a startup. And now you have those people coming with AI. and they can make a prototype they can um make better business plans i was i i it was a time when i earned money writing business plans for others and it was i mean now you can put your thoughts in there as a startup founder and does it does ai make it easier for you or harder

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